Single Space or Double Space
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Surely it's from the typesetting era? You can't have a double or single space with hand-writing, you can only have a space of undefined size.
I left much more space between sentences when handwriting than between words. I think that most people do. I was taught to do that. Apparently that became wrong at some point, but handwriting normally looked that way,
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For example, that is double spacing between sentences...
http://summerthinks.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/handwriting.jpg
Looks normal, right?
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But if you go back to medieval handwriting, spacing was rare. So maybe the printing press with movable type introduced the idea. If it did it was over 500 years ago. My guess is that it came about with handwriting first, but near to the same time. They would not have done it in print for no reason, it took extra effort and cost more.
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Of course, handwriting has never been about good legibility anyway...
http://clairegebben.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1847-sample1.jpg
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@scottalanmiller said:
Of course, handwriting has never been about good legibility anyway...
http://clairegebben.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/1847-sample1.jpg
No Sh*t, right!
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There is a reason that I don't handwrite things. It's just a way of torturing the people that you make attempt to read it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
There is a reason that I don't handwrite things. It's just a way of torturing the people that you make attempt to read it.
Yeah I'm in the same boat. When I was signing the contracts for my mortgage, the lender asked me to not use my actual signature and instead write my name in normal cursive... LOL
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Ha ha, I can't even do that anymore. I've not used cursive since elementary school. It has no purpose anywhere else. Why did it even exist except to be pretentious. It's never been easy to read.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Ha ha, I can't even do that anymore. I've not used cursive since elementary school. It has no purpose anywhere else. Why did it even exist except to be pretentious. It's never been easy to read.
Signatures. That's the only reason left.
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My signature would be a stretch to call cursive.
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@scottalanmiller said:
There is a reason that I don't handwrite things. It's just a way of torturing the people that you make attempt to read it.
Including myself.....
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The common comma:
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Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.
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@Dashrender said:
Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.
That's a good one. Never used that in college, never would you ever use it in real life. An entire "skill" whose only purpose is to distract you from useful learning in high school. It's trivial to teach yet takes lots of effort on the students' part - exactly the kind of time wasting that teachers look for. Requires no effort or knowledge on the part of the teacher and offers a nearly limitless opportunity to mark off for something that doesn't matter rather than needing to read and comprehend what was actually written.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.
That's a good one. Never used that in college, never would you ever use it in real life. An entire "skill" whose only purpose is to distract you from useful learning in high school. It's trivial to teach yet takes lots of effort on the students' part - exactly the kind of time wasting that teachers look for. Requires no effort or knowledge on the part of the teacher and offers a nearly limitless opportunity to mark off for something that doesn't matter rather than needing to read and comprehend what was actually written.
Cursive is good to help you with creating a signature. That's it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.
That's a good one. Never used that in college, never would you ever use it in real life. An entire "skill" whose only purpose is to distract you from useful learning in high school. It's trivial to teach yet takes lots of effort on the students' part - exactly the kind of time wasting that teachers look for. Requires no effort or knowledge on the part of the teacher and offers a nearly limitless opportunity to mark off for something that doesn't matter rather than needing to read and comprehend what was actually written.
Not just high school - I'm taking a few courses now.. and they college profs want it too... hell, they even have a website they suggest you use to put it into the 'correct' format. College is definitely 20+ years behind the times!!
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I had to look up cursive. You mean what we call 'joined up writing'? How else do you write if not joined up (ie each letter in a word joins with the next)?
Unless I'm missing something.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
I had to look up cursive. You mean what we call 'joined up writing'? How else do you write if not joined up (ie each letter in a word joins with the next)?
Unless I'm missing something.
I haven't written cursive since grade school... even my signature is something that can be barely called cursive. When I write (which is basically never) I write in print or block, which is much easier to read, although my handwriting is abysmal.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
I had to look up cursive. You mean what we call 'joined up writing'? How else do you write if not joined up (ie each letter in a word joins with the next)?
Unless I'm missing something.
We call the illegible scrolling thing only done in grade school cursive. That's probably what you call joined up writing.
For adult writing by hand we only use printing (not joined up) because it is clearly legible which, in theory, is the only value to having written something.
Many people refer to using a combination of the two as "girl writing." Many girls (most, I would guess) adopt a sloppy combination of the two that is kind of ridiculous.
Cursive is how they wrote documents and letters in the eighteenth century. It's designed to make writing faster and lazier at the cost of the receiving party being able to read it.
In engineering school cursive wasn't even allowed as it was deemed unprofessional to not print clearly and even our printing was modified to ensure maximum accuracy.
