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      bnrstnr
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      I agree that they should be public.

      I'm curious what the UI looks like if one person upvotes and one person downvotes, doe it just display both names, or which one did which?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
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        @bnrstnr said in Handling Downvotes:

        I'm curious what the UI looks like if one person upvotes and one person downvotes, doe it just display both names, or which one did which?

        I think it shows it under the arrow for each item.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce
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          My opinion, is yes.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            I'm cool with showing downvotes. It will give haters just one more thing to complain about - so and so downvoted me... no different than someone complaining about to much spam or something else here.

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            • NashBrydgesN
              NashBrydges
              last edited by

              Agreed. Make it public and encourage accountability.

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                VoIP_n00b
                last edited by

                Vote: Public

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22
                  last edited by wirestyle22

                  I don't care if downvotes are shown. I do think that this can create social problems and discourage people from downvoting which can negatively impact quality as stated. We'll see what happens.

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                  • jmooreJ
                    jmoore
                    last edited by

                    I don't care either. Make them public.

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                    • brandon220B
                      brandon220
                      last edited by

                      Public is fine. Always good to know who downvotes the carpet cleaning ads!

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        Aside from true feelings, which I don't care if people know I downvoted, I only usually downvote other things to annoy @DustinB3403 anyway.

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                        • notverypunnyN
                          notverypunny
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                          We're all grownups, so I'd say make it public.

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                            1337
                            last edited by 1337

                            I think both upvotes and downvotes should be invisible.
                            By having both invisible all the potential drama is completely avoided. And the number of votes for or against will probably be more honest.

                            It's also more informative if you go back and look at old threads. The number actually represents what most people agreed on at the time.

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                              scottalanmiller @1337
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                              @Pete-S said in Handling Downvotes:

                              By having both invisible all the potential drama is completely avoided.

                              It doesn't. The downvotes will have the same drama. The issue won't be addressed.

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                              • EddieJenningsE
                                EddieJennings
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                                I have no problem with having both upvotes and downvotes visible. The couple of times I've been downvoted, I've wanted to know "why" -- especially if I've made a mistake somewhere. I can't ask the source if I don't know who the source is.

                                I also have no problem with both being invisible, like Reddit.

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                                  1337 @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by 1337

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Handling Downvotes:

                                  @Pete-S said in Handling Downvotes:

                                  By having both invisible all the potential drama is completely avoided.

                                  It doesn't. The downvotes will have the same drama. The issue won't be addressed.

                                  Remove downvotes all together then. If you have personal downvotes the drama will increase for sure. If you have problems now, it will become worse.

                                  The question is what the downvote actually means. Is it a thumbs down on you or a disagreement with what you said?

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                                    JasGot
                                    last edited by

                                    It doesn't matter so much to me. But, my preference would be for them both to be invisible, and add a "Kudos" count for users to get recognition for contributions.

                                    Also, I think the root of the problem is that the votes are not done for the right reasons.

                                    Upvotes should be representative of things like "I learned something new", or "That saved me a lot of time", etc, etc, and downvotes should be for things like, "I asked you to address the error in your post and you refused", or "your answer does not answer the original poster's question", etc, etc.

                                    Too many times, the votes are more representative of fleeting emotions or revenge. (In my opinion!)

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @brandon220
                                      last edited by

                                      @brandon220 said in Handling Downvotes:

                                      Public is fine. Always good to know who downvotes the carpet cleaning ads!

                                      Exactly - don't downvote - that's just a waste - simply report them.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @1337
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                                        @Pete-S said in Handling Downvotes:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Handling Downvotes:

                                        @Pete-S said in Handling Downvotes:

                                        By having both invisible all the potential drama is completely avoided.

                                        It doesn't. The downvotes will have the same drama. The issue won't be addressed.

                                        Remove downvotes all together then. If you have personal downvotes the drama will increase for sure. If you have problems now, it will become worse.

                                        The question is what the downvote actually means. Is it a thumbs down on you or a disagreement with what you said?

                                        Ultimately this is my wondering?

                                        Do people, IT people, actually pay attention to the number of up/down votes when reading these threads?

                                        I rarely upvote, let alone downvote something... perhaps I'm not helping ML as much as I could by not voting on every bloody thing 😛

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                                        • KellyK
                                          Kelly
                                          last edited by

                                          Here is how I use votes in general:
                                          Upvote = I agree or I see your post and acknowledge it, but it doesn't necessitate me typing a full post to reply
                                          Downvote = I disagree with what you said, but I don't want to invest the time arguing with you (for a variety of reasons)

                                          It might change how/when I use downvoting initially if it is public. I don't do it often, but anonymity makes it too easy. It probably would change how I use it because if it is public it would give the downvotee the visibility to challenge me for negatively responding without feedback. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Handling Downvotes:

                                            Do people, IT people, actually pay attention to the number of up/down votes when reading these threads?

                                            Some, for sure. When I see lots of upvotes I take more notice of a post. Just one, no. but like four or more.

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