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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      OK, that's what the connector is supposed to fix. authentication is IP based instead of username/password based.

      did you confirm that your PC's external IP is the same as the IP you provided in the connector? (google - what's my IP?)

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        1337 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

        In most cases like this, we run a Postfix server on Fedora that accepts unauthenticated port 25 from the devices and then sends out authenticated through O365 or whatever. Often that's the only way.

        Feels like a smtp relay for sure is the best way to handle networks where you have devices sending email.

        Just imagine changing ISP or whatever and then have to go through all email capable devices to make sure they now have the proper outgoing email settings.

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410 @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

          OK, that's what the connector is supposed to fix. authentication is IP based instead of username/password based.

          did you confirm that your PC's external IP is the same as the IP you provided in the connector? (google - what's my IP?)

          Yessir...shows correct IP Address.

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          • garak0410G
            garak0410 @1337
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            @Pete-S said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

            @scottalanmiller said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

            In most cases like this, we run a Postfix server on Fedora that accepts unauthenticated port 25 from the devices and then sends out authenticated through O365 or whatever. Often that's the only way.

            Feels like a smtp relay for sure is the best way to handle networks where you have devices sending email.

            Just imagine changing ISP or whatever and then have to go through all email capable devices to make sure they now have the proper outgoing email settings.

            I believe this is going to be in my near future...just weird for it to BAM! and stop...makes me wonder if I have a network issue...I had a feedback loop a few months ago that drove me crazy until I could finally locate it...

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @1337
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              @Pete-S said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

              @scottalanmiller said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

              In most cases like this, we run a Postfix server on Fedora that accepts unauthenticated port 25 from the devices and then sends out authenticated through O365 or whatever. Often that's the only way.

              Feels like a smtp relay for sure is the best way to handle networks where you have devices sending email.

              Just imagine changing ISP or whatever and then have to go through all email capable devices to make sure they now have the proper outgoing email settings.

              This is wrong. There’s no issue because I connector validates by your IP. If you get a new ISP you update the IP. That’s it done. A relay is useful so that you only need to send out from one local device, and thus you can blacklist SMTP out for everything except that One device. But that is not directly related to sending email out via a connector.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @garak0410
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                @garak0410 said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

                @Pete-S said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

                @scottalanmiller said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

                In most cases like this, we run a Postfix server on Fedora that accepts unauthenticated port 25 from the devices and then sends out authenticated through O365 or whatever. Often that's the only way.

                Feels like a smtp relay for sure is the best way to handle networks where you have devices sending email.

                Just imagine changing ISP or whatever and then have to go through all email capable devices to make sure they now have the proper outgoing email settings.

                I believe this is going to be in my near future...just weird for it to BAM! and stop...makes me wonder if I have a network issue...I had a feedback loop a few months ago that drove me crazy until I could finally locate it...

                I use the relay simply because port 25 is not allowed to be sent out of my network except from the relays IP address. You do not have that restriction, so you do not need a relay for that reason. You have obviously set something up incorrectly in your connector. I’m driving home tonight but I can screenshot mine and/or other clients tomorrow

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                  JasGot
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                  What's the security on your connector?
                  Should include anonymous
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                  • garak0410G
                    garak0410 @JasGot
                    last edited by

                    @JasGot said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

                    What's the security on your connector?
                    Should include anonymous
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                    That may be part of the problem...I do not see these options for my connector...is it on a different screen? I also didn't see these options when setting up the connector.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @garak0410
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                      @garak0410 said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

                      @Pete-S said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

                      @scottalanmiller said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

                      In most cases like this, we run a Postfix server on Fedora that accepts unauthenticated port 25 from the devices and then sends out authenticated through O365 or whatever. Often that's the only way.

                      Feels like a smtp relay for sure is the best way to handle networks where you have devices sending email.

                      Just imagine changing ISP or whatever and then have to go through all email capable devices to make sure they now have the proper outgoing email settings.

                      I believe this is going to be in my near future...just weird for it to BAM! and stop...makes me wonder if I have a network issue...I had a feedback loop a few months ago that drove me crazy until I could finally locate it...

                      feedback loop?

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
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                        • garak0410G
                          garak0410 @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

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                          Thank you...that was helpful...it looks like I did set it up correctly...that said, I do not have options like in this photo below...
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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @garak0410
                            last edited by JaredBusch

                            @garak0410 said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

                            Thank you...that was helpful...it looks like I did set it up correctly...that said, I do not have options like in this photo below...
                            scan2email_01.png

                            That looks like an on prem screenshot. Office 365 does not have a screen like that.

                            Edit: Yup. Here is Exchange 2013 ECP.
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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
                              last edited by JaredBusch

                              Post everything you did to test.

                              [jbusch@dt-jared ~]$ nslookup -type=mx bundystl.com
                              Server:		10.254.103.4
                              Address:	10.254.103.4#53
                              
                              Non-authoritative answer:
                              bundystl.com	mail exchanger = 0 bundystl-com.mail.protection.outlook.com.
                              
                              Authoritative answers can be found from:
                              
                              [jbusch@dt-jared ~]$ telnet bundystl-com.mail.protection.outlook.com 25
                              Trying 104.47.48.36...
                              Connected to bundystl-com.mail.protection.outlook.com.
                              Escape character is '^]'.
                              220 CO1NAM05FT012.mail.protection.outlook.com Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service ready at Thu, 1 Aug 2019 15:52:15 +0000
                              
                              ehlo
                              250-CO1NAM05FT012.mail.protection.outlook.com Hello [207.244.223.13]
                              250-SIZE 157286400
                              250-PIPELINING
                              250-DSN
                              250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
                              250-STARTTLS
                              250-8BITMIME
                              250-BINARYMIME
                              250-CHUNKING
                              250 SMTPUTF8
                              
                              mail from:<[email protected]>
                              250 2.1.0 Sender OK
                              rcpt to: <[email protected]>
                              250 2.1.5 Recipient OK
                              
                              data
                              354 Start mail input; end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
                              Subject: Test SMTP
                              
                              Test Message
                              .
                              250 2.6.0 <f9a30b1f-7517-4a63-8fe2-7ea58eeae635@CO1NAM05FT012.eop-nam05.prod.protection.outlook.com> [InternalId=2173253459470, Hostname=DM6PR07MB4618.namprd07.prod.outlook.com] 9295 bytes in 5.960, 1.523 KB/sec Queued mail for delivery
                              quit
                              221 2.0.0 Service closing transmission channel
                              Connection closed by foreign host.
                              [jbusch@dt-jared ~]$ 
                              

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch Not sure if more impressed that you made all those screenshots, or horrified at how Microsoft buried that setting.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

                                  @JaredBusch Not sure if more impressed that you made all those screenshots, or horrified at how Microsoft buried that setting.

                                  It's not buried. it is right there. Just lots of clicking.

                                  You can do it all with PowerShell also, but I don't know the commands. I do not set up enough connectors to have ever bothered to learn that.

                                  This is a once and done, for the most part, at a client.

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                                  • garak0410G
                                    garak0410
                                    last edited by garak0410

                                    @JaredBusch said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

                                    data
                                    354 Start mail input; end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
                                    Subject: Test SMTP

                                    Test Message
                                    .

                                    Here are my results...

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @garak0410
                                      last edited by JaredBusch

                                      @garak0410 That means your copier should now work.

                                      Plain SMTP, no authentication, or anything.

                                      The only requirement is that it has to use a from address of [email protected]

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                                      • garak0410G
                                        garak0410 @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

                                        @garak0410 That means your copier should now work.

                                        Plain SMTP, no authentication, or anything.

                                        The only requirement is that it has to use a from address of [email protected]

                                        Sadly, same on both Toshiba Copiers, HP Printers and Dell VTRX:

                                        Failed to connect to SMTP server
                                        SMTP protocol error
                                        dell_email_01.jpg

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                                            garak0410 @garak0410
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                                            @garak0410 said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

                                            @JaredBusch said in E-Mail Sending Has Stopped Working On Hardware Devices:

                                            @garak0410 That means your copier should now work.

                                            Plain SMTP, no authentication, or anything.

                                            The only requirement is that it has to use a from address of [email protected]

                                            Sadly, same on both Toshiba Copiers, HP Printers and Dell VTRX:

                                            Failed to connect to SMTP server
                                            SMTP protocol error
                                            dell_email_01.jpg

                                            Do you ever have those IT moments where a fix to something makes you feel foolish but those in your field, especially in a SOLO IT SHOP can totally relate...

                                            Well, this is working now...and almost too embarrassed to say why...but I will...

                                            IP Address was wrong...mind you, we used the same one for years...YEARS...and I've spoken with Microsoft Office 365 support 3 times and they know which IP address I was using...why couldn't they have simply said "Oh, this is the problem..."

                                            It was going to a direct IP address and stopped working...
                                            I tried the DNS name and no go.
                                            Finally, though @JaredBusch's awesome help, it exposed the real IP address to use...and it is fully working now...

                                            I do wonder why it just stopped working...but grateful for the help. Hope to see a few of you at SpiceWorld... 🙂

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