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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @CharlesHTN
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      @CharlesHTN said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

      Yup...and in government, for the most part, low bid wins,

      Even if they don't do the job. Because it's not a bid for the work, just a bid for getting paid.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @CharlesHTN
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        @CharlesHTN said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

        That's not so much the fault of the bidding process,

        Actually it is. Bidding is designed specifically to not get good work done. It's why no real business or sensible person ever does it for creative work, makes no sense and guarantees that the results can't be good. Bidding itself is definitely a serious flaw.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @CharlesHTN
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          @CharlesHTN said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

          as the fact that the ones creating the requirements for the bidding don't understand enough about the "product" to be specific enough in their requirements to weed out bad MSP's.

          The only people who CAN create a real bid are the people who would do the work, hence why the bidding process is flawed. The ability to scope a bid requires the ultimate ability to do the work. So bidding can't work, because you could do the work more easily than making a good bid.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

            PD and modern don't mix because of their "security standards".

            You'd think that running software 1.5 decades old and bypassing modern Win10 security measures is anything but secure...

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

              PD and modern don't mix because of their "security standards".

              Idk who is worse the FD or the PD

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @wirestyle22
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                @wirestyle22 said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                @DustinB3403 said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                PD and modern don't mix because of their "security standards".

                Idk who is worse the FD or the PD

                It's all government. :crying_face:

                Look at the gap between protecting public information and defense information. When it comes to defense information, they pay billions of dollars for information security. When it comes to protecting tax payer's services that affect the tax payer on a daily basis, they have the absolute worst security practice possible.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @IRJ
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                  @IRJ said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                  @wirestyle22 said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                  @DustinB3403 said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                  PD and modern don't mix because of their "security standards".

                  Idk who is worse the FD or the PD

                  It's all government. :crying_face:

                  Look at the gap between protecting public information and defense information. When it comes to defense information, they pay billions of dollars for information security. When it comes to protecting tax payer's services that affect the tax payer on a daily basis, they have the absolute worst security practice possible.

                  Well from an FD POV, what is there that they need to protect?

                  From a PD POV - the information they have in general should mostly be a matter of public record, so keeping it from hackers seems slightly unnecessary - that said, you still don't want hackers using the resources for non PD functions.

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                    @IRJ said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                    @wirestyle22 said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                    @DustinB3403 said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                    PD and modern don't mix because of their "security standards".

                    Idk who is worse the FD or the PD

                    It's all government. :crying_face:

                    Look at the gap between protecting public information and defense information. When it comes to defense information, they pay billions of dollars for information security. When it comes to protecting tax payer's services that affect the tax payer on a daily basis, they have the absolute worst security practice possible.

                    Well from an FD POV, what is there that they need to protect?

                    From a PD POV - the information they have in general should mostly be a matter of public record, so keeping it from hackers seems slightly unnecessary - that said, you still don't want hackers using the resources for non PD functions.

                    So everyone not in healthcare, finance, PCI, or defense doesnt need to protect their workstations, applications, and servers? That is news to me.

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @IRJ
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                      @IRJ said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                      @Dashrender said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                      @IRJ said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                      @wirestyle22 said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                      @DustinB3403 said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                      PD and modern don't mix because of their "security standards".

                      Idk who is worse the FD or the PD

                      It's all government. :crying_face:

                      Look at the gap between protecting public information and defense information. When it comes to defense information, they pay billions of dollars for information security. When it comes to protecting tax payer's services that affect the tax payer on a daily basis, they have the absolute worst security practice possible.

                      Well from an FD POV, what is there that they need to protect?

                      From a PD POV - the information they have in general should mostly be a matter of public record, so keeping it from hackers seems slightly unnecessary - that said, you still don't want hackers using the resources for non PD functions.

                      So everyone not in healthcare, finance, PCI, or defense doesnt need to protect their workstations, applications, and servers? That is news to me.

                      Well, the military is putting weapons systems online with no security, do you expect a state or local police department to be more competent?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @IRJ
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                        @IRJ said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                        @Dashrender said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                        @IRJ said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                        @wirestyle22 said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                        @DustinB3403 said in "Upgrading" a laptop for the Police Department:

                        PD and modern don't mix because of their "security standards".

                        Idk who is worse the FD or the PD

                        It's all government. :crying_face:

                        Look at the gap between protecting public information and defense information. When it comes to defense information, they pay billions of dollars for information security. When it comes to protecting tax payer's services that affect the tax payer on a daily basis, they have the absolute worst security practice possible.

                        Well from an FD POV, what is there that they need to protect?

                        From a PD POV - the information they have in general should mostly be a matter of public record, so keeping it from hackers seems slightly unnecessary - that said, you still don't want hackers using the resources for non PD functions.

                        So everyone not in healthcare, finance, PCI, or defense doesnt need to protect their workstations, applications, and servers? That is news to me.

                        That is not what I said at all.

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