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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      I use both as well.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        You have to switch to DNS based auth for the LE certs if you are putting the traffic through CloudFlare or you need to disable cloudflare prior to the renew request.

        At least that is how it was when LE went public. Haven't looked into CF since.

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        • NashBrydgesN
          NashBrydges
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          @black3dynamite @scottalanmiller Is there any benefit in using CF's SSL? I only see this as confusing if users verefy the cert in their browser. Granted, that's likely a pretty rare thing but still. Any specific reason for using it vs not? You're using it just because it's there?

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          • NashBrydgesN
            NashBrydges @JaredBusch
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            @jaredbusch said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

            You have to switch to DNS based auth for the LE certs if you are putting the traffic through CloudFlare or you need to disable cloudflare prior to the renew request.

            At least that is how it was when LE went public. Haven't looked into CF since.

            Thanks @JaredBusch I'll watch for this the next time I'm registering a new domain. So far, I've been migrating existing ones to CF so haven't run into this on renewal.

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            • dbeatoD
              dbeato @JaredBusch
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              @jaredbusch said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

              You have to switch to DNS based auth for the LE certs if you are putting the traffic through CloudFlare or you need to disable cloudflare prior to the renew request.

              At least that is how it was when LE went public. Haven't looked into CF since.

              Yes, that is true. I went through this with Zimbra and LE which caused a lot of problems.

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              • dbeatoD
                dbeato @NashBrydges
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                @nashbrydges said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                @black3dynamite @scottalanmiller Is there any benefit in using CF's SSL? I only see this as confusing if users verefy the cert in their browser. Granted, that's likely a pretty rare thing but still. Any specific reason for using it vs not? You're using it just because it's there?

                It is a reverse proxy for you without the need of an additional Server, you can also host sub-domains with the same SSL, it is free but the SSL just needs to be renewed in CloudFlare.

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite @NashBrydges
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                  @nashbrydges said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                  @black3dynamite @scottalanmiller Is there any benefit in using CF's SSL? I only see this as confusing if users verefy the cert in their browser. Granted, that's likely a pretty rare thing but still. Any specific reason for using it vs not? You're using it just because it's there?

                  I use the non strict Full SSL because I have some self-signed certs.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @black3dynamite
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                    @black3dynamite said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                    @nashbrydges said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                    @black3dynamite @scottalanmiller Is there any benefit in using CF's SSL? I only see this as confusing if users verefy the cert in their browser. Granted, that's likely a pretty rare thing but still. Any specific reason for using it vs not? You're using it just because it's there?

                    I use the non strict Full SSL because I have some self-signed certs.

                    Same here.

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                    • NashBrydgesN
                      NashBrydges @black3dynamite
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                      @black3dynamite said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                      @nashbrydges said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                      @black3dynamite @scottalanmiller Is there any benefit in using CF's SSL? I only see this as confusing if users verefy the cert in their browser. Granted, that's likely a pretty rare thing but still. Any specific reason for using it vs not? You're using it just because it's there?

                      I use the non strict Full SSL because I have some self-signed certs.

                      That would be a good use-case scenario. Thanks.

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee
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                        I use CF for DNS & as domain registrar.
                        My web hosting is done somewhere else.

                        I'm trying to use LE certs (at my web hoster) but the dns-01 validation is failing.

                        What am I doing wrong?

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite @FATeknollogee
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                          @FATeknollogee said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                          dns-01

                          Not sure what that is but could this help?

                          Cloud Flare hook bash for dehydrated - DNS-01 Challenge Let's Encrypt
                          https://github.com/sineverba/cfhookbash

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @FATeknollogee
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                            @FATeknollogee said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                            I use CF for DNS & as domain registrar.
                            My web hosting is done somewhere else.

                            I'm trying to use LE certs (at my web hoster) but the dns-01 validation is failing.

                            What am I doing wrong?

                            You'll need a cloudflare api key and the registered email in a file. Mine is in /root/.secrets/cloudlfare.ini, which has 2 lines

                            dns_cloudflare_email = [email protected]
                            dns_cloudflare_api_key = your key
                            

                            Then you can:

                            certbot2 certonly --dns-cloudflare-credentials /root/.secret/cloudflare.ini --renew-by-default -d domain.com -d subdomain.domain.com
                            

                            You do have to list all domains and subdomains you want the cert to be valid for in the command. I have mine scripted to run once every day.

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                            • dbeatoD
                              dbeato @travisdh1
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                              @travisdh1 said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                              @FATeknollogee said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                              I use CF for DNS & as domain registrar.
                              My web hosting is done somewhere else.

                              I'm trying to use LE certs (at my web hoster) but the dns-01 validation is failing.

                              What am I doing wrong?

                              You'll need a cloudflare api key and the registered email in a file. Mine is in /root/.secrets/cloudlfare.ini, which has 2 lines

                              dns_cloudflare_email = [email protected]
                              dns_cloudflare_api_key = your key
                              

                              Then you can:

                              certbot2 certonly --dns-cloudflare-credentials /root/.secret/cloudflare.ini --renew-by-default -d domain.com -d subdomain.domain.com
                              

                              You do have to list all domains and subdomains you want the cert to be valid for in the command. I have mine scripted to run once every day.

                              Yep, I have it that way for my home as I cannot get SSL since my ISP blocks port 80.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
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                                I just don't wan tto take the time to convert everything. I have been using LE for so long...

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                                • black3dynamiteB
                                  black3dynamite @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                                  I just don't wan tto take the time to convert everything. I have been using LE for so long...

                                  Why would you have to convert? Is this a new way of getting certs now?

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                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee
                                    last edited by FATeknollogee

                                    @dbeato @travisdh1
                                    Are you guys doing this on a VPS or you have a self-hosted web server?

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @FATeknollogee
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                                      @FATeknollogee said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                                      @dbeato @travisdh1
                                      Are you guys doinf this on a VPS or you have a self-hosted web server?

                                      Mine is a self hosted server with an nginx proxy handling all external traffic. Should work the same with a VPS when using cloudflare for DNS.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @black3dynamite
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                                        @black3dynamite said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Cloudflare SSL - Do You Use Or Not?:

                                        I just don't wan tto take the time to convert everything. I have been using LE for so long...

                                        Why would you have to convert? Is this a new way of getting certs now?

                                        Yes. This would allow us to use CloudFlare again. When I first switched to LE, I had to manually disable CloudFlare (uncheck the orange cloud), wait a minute, then run the LE renew, then reenable CloudFlare.

                                        Certbot eventually came out with a plugin that you could use the CloudFlare API to enable, and disable during the process. But, by then, I had already just disabled CloudFare proxying all my sites that use LE.

                                        Now, with DNS verificaiton, I can turn everything back on and not even need the API to enable/disable. But I will need to take the time to set things back up again.

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                                          Baldwin_Cannon
                                          last edited by Baldwin_Cannon

                                          In principle, the combination of both will be appropriate for better safety of the web site. Only along with the above, I also use other types of SSL such as there https://hostovita.pl/ssl/

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates
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                                            I use the actual CloudFlare certs that they give you also. Not just clicking the cloud. I use GitLab pages to host my blog and LetsEncrypt renewal is still manual there. So I got a free cert from CloudFlare which is good for 15 years and used that instead.

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