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      JasGot @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller And you can't get a Wyse terminal with an AWS workspace client.

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        scottalanmiller
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        The term for something doing work on the client is called a fat client. Thin vs fat means just showing the work vs. doing the work.

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          scottalanmiller @JasGot
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          @JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:

          @scottalanmiller And you can't get a Wyse terminal with an AWS workspace client.

          What do you mean? Why can't you? Just hook it up.

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            JasGot @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller They want to see the "little box" show them the Windows interface that lives elsewhere.

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              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in How do YOU demo VDI?:

              @JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:

              How do you demo for your customers, what customers so casually call VDI?

              Just throw Windows 10 in a VM, let them see. That's all VDI is.

              Pretty much everyone using VDI uses it because someone heard the word and demanded that they use it, without looking up to see what it meant.

              "what it meant" is expensive for users who want Microsoft.

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                scottalanmiller @JasGot
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                @JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:

                @scottalanmiller And you can't get a Wyse terminal with an AWS workspace client.

                Here are Amazon's instructions for doing exactly that...

                https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/connect-workspace-rdp/

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                  JasGot @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller You can't access AWS with RDP. The Thin clients we prefer only have RDP and Citrix

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                    scottalanmiller @JasGot
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                    @JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:

                    @scottalanmiller They want to see the "little box" show them the Windows interface that lives elsewhere.

                    I'm confused. Thin client is what views remote sessions. Anything that does that is a thin client.

                    Do you mean a hardware thin client (like the Wyse box) as opposed to the thin client software (like Reminna?)

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                      scottalanmiller @JasGot
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                      @JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:

                      @scottalanmiller You can't access AWS with RDP. The Thin clients we prefer only have RDP and Citrix

                      Yes, you can. I just provided Amazon's how to.

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                        DustinB3403 @JasGot
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                        @JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:

                        @scottalanmiller They want to see the "little box" show them the Windows interface that lives elsewhere.

                        What?

                        What Scott is saying is that with a Thin client, all of the processing is being done remotely. A user using RDP to access to Thin client doesn't "show" them anything. They simply have a Windows environment to work with.

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                          JasGot @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller You need to type SLOWER, I was answering your earlier comment when you posted again, and again, and again.... 🙂

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                            scottalanmiller
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                            Some quick terms because this is NECESSARY to avoid a cluster F of confusion.

                            VDI = one to one virtualization accessed remotely (via RDP, ICA, NX, Xterm, Amazon's client, etc.)
                            Thin Client = the software that accesses any of these protocols.
                            Thin Client Hardware = the box that does nothing but run the software above.

                            Let's stick to these and clarify if we diverge so that we are all on the same page.

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                              JaredBusch @JasGot
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                              @JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:

                              @scottalanmiller You need to type SLOWER, I was answering your earlier comment when you posted again, and again, and again.... 🙂

                              No, but he does need to stop spewing bullshit until the OP replies.

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                                JasGot @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 Maybe we should get back to the base question, since I already know how VDI works. I'll rephrase the question. When you walk in the door to demo VDI, what do you have with you?

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                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  If you have a Wyse client, as an example, and want to demo VDI, basically any VDI solution will support that (virtually, mine doesn't, but most do) so just have the "box" ready, and attach to any service you want to demo.

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                                    scottalanmiller @JasGot
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                                    @JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:

                                    When you walk in the door to demo VDI, what do you have with you?

                                    Never considered doing something like that before, you mean like a sales call where you just want to show it off? I'd be wary of doing that as firewalls and ISP issues might make it look really bad when it might not be.

                                    And you can only show hosted VDI in that case, unless you are bringing a full demo rig with you with the server AND the client with you. Which you CAN do, even an Intel NUC and a Wyse laptop style thin client hardware together could make for a viable demo.

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                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said in How do YOU demo VDI?:

                                      @JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:

                                      @scottalanmiller You need to type SLOWER, I was answering your earlier comment when you posted again, and again, and again.... 🙂

                                      No, but he does need to stop spewing bullshit until the OP replies.

                                      There wasn't any BS to avoid. All important info.

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                                        DustinB3403 @JasGot
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                                        @JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:

                                        @DustinB3403 Maybe we should get back to the base question, since I already know how VDI works. I'll rephrase the question. When you walk in the door to demo VDI, what do you have with you?

                                        A remote desktop client like Microsoft RDP or Reminna, or even https://guacamole.apache.org/

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Hard to imagine a case where I'd want to demo with a full hardware set under my arm. Everyone knows what VDI looks like and how it acts, hard to find anyone that doesn't use it or something that looks identical regularly. Since VDI and TS are indistinguishable from the end user.

                                          Showing off a physical thin client hardware device is kind of pointless as you can describe it perfectly... it's exactly like a normal computer running the thin client software, but with a smaller computer that costs "less" (often they cost more.)

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                                            scottalanmiller @JasGot
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                                            @JasGot said in How do YOU demo VDI?:

                                            and without looking at cost for VDI v. simple SMB hosted Windows VMs with a direct 1-to-1 usage

                                            That is VDI, BTW. Those aren't two different things.

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