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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Youtube Video

      I'm Scott Alan Miller and today on SAMIT I'm gonna talk about one of those dirty secrets of the IT industry. It's actually kind of not so much a dirty secret of IT as much as it's a dirty secret of everyone who's hiring IT. That secret is that most job listings, most job postings that you see out there are fake. That's right, and I estimate it's somewhere around 85%, but of course there's no way to really know; especially because any given job's ability to be fake is somewhat subjective. But let's talk about why this is the case.

      So at a high level one of the things you have to realize is that the entire job market online where we have job postings and
      job candidates that we need to match up, is a lot like an online dating service and like an online dating service both sides benefit from having really large numbers. People who are on the hiring side want to see loads and loads of candidates and makes them feel good about the service that they're using
      that they're getting a large number of
      resumes or calls or submissions on the
      other side candidates want to see a
      large number of job listings they feel
      like they're getting great value because
      they have lots of different jobs to
      which they can apply and that feels like
      they have their best chances because
      there's so many opportunities so both
      sides want to see big numbers even if
      they only want to hire one person or get
      one job that's an emotional reaction it
      doesn't actually make sense both sides
      simply want the right connection the
      company wants to hire one good person or
      a few and that's all they care about
      whether there's a thousand people
      waiting behind them or two doesn't
      matter to them not in the end of the day
      but it's just not important
      the same for job candidates you want one
      job not a thousand it just has to be the
      right job and it has to hire you at the
      rate that you're happy with but as long
      as you get that one no matter how many
      others there are isn't beneficial to you
      and the more there are it's actually
      harder to wade through so it's actually
      a negative because it makes the process
      of locating and
      binding the the right resources that
      much harder so both sides have a really
      strong incentive to provide something to
      the other side that's not exactly honest
      jobs have a lot of reasons to want to
      attract people so they want to make jobs
      look really attractive or interesting
      and candidates want to lie about their
      skills and make themselves sound really
      useful and interesting everybody has
      something to play enlisting themselves
      online exactly like a dating site so in
      dating
      we know that sites like tinder for
      example are famous for being more than
      99 percent fake it's either completely
      fake which is the category where the
      services themselves create fake profiles
      to make the service look like it's busy
      or other companies use the service with
      fake profiles such as bots because they
      want to collect information or do market
      research or just whatever whatever logic
      they have for doing that if you're
      dealing with on the people side if
      there's a real person but giving fake
      information because they want to
      encourage a connection where one doesn't
      make sense we call that catfishing in AI
      T or in jobs in general that IT is
      specifically bad about this because of
      the way the online hiring tends to
      happen with the exact same thing the
      services whether they're recruiting
      firms or just websites that host job
      listings have a massive incentive to
      fill their sites with fake jobs because
      as long as fake jobs are on there or any
      jobs then candidates are going to fill
      in profiles and start submitting which
      allows people to collect information you
      don't need a single real job for those
      sites to make money a lot of it so you
      have fake profiles and you have systems
      that are creating BOTS profiles or
      completely fake profiles but they're not
      from the the website itself to collect
      information but then you have lots and
      lots of companies out there that falsely
      represent themselves because they're
      catfishing in a professional sense they
      want to collect information about
      possible candidates or they want to get
      candidates on the line and hopefully
      talk them into being hired for something
      that isn't what they signed up for this
      is pretty common
      now that's just what's going on from the
      company and the the website side there
      are lots of recruiting firms that are a
      little bit different than either and
      they have a huge incentive incentive to
      do the same thing as the website but
      they often use job websites to
      coordinate this which expands the
      process even more they want to have lots
      and lots of candidates on the line so
      that when they go to a company to
      propose that they can fill a job that'll
      be easier for them to fill and the more
      candidates they have the more desperate
      those candidates will tend to feel which
      makes them more likely to accept a lower
      pay which makes the recruiter more
      capable to fill a job at a given company
      because if they come in cheaper than
      some other recruiter they are more
      likely to fill the position even if
      their candidates are the same or lesser
      so in the real world there's a massive
      market force from every angle to fill
      job sites with fake information in every
      direction and it's real if you spend a
      lot of time job hunting you will find
      pretty quickly that job listings are
      fake they may look real they may sound
      real they may be posted to many places
      they may be posted directly by the
      company that you think is doing the
      hiring but they're almost always fake
      and 85% is pretty conservative it's
      easily closer to 90 to 99 percent it's
      just really hard to know for sure
      because when you apply for a job and
      don't get a response is that because it
      was already filled is it old data was it
      never meant to be filled did they mean
      to fill it but change their mind there's
      a lot of different factors that could be
      leading to that and some of them are
      overtly fake and some are just
      suggestively fake and some kind of
      overlap with being fake while not
      actually being technically fake they
      just result in utility of the same as
      being fake so it's important to
      understand when you're looking at job
      listings because a lot of IT people use
      job listings as a guide for things and
      you'll hear people say this all the time
      oh you want to know what people are
      hiring for in your market go look at a
      job posting and see what people are
      asking for this is actually pretty bad
      advice because it's based around the
      fact that people think the job listings
      must be real so that leads them to then
      look for skills to acquire skills that
      fake jobs are looking for
      but those fake jobs are probably looking
      for skills that people have put falsely
      on their resumes for the same reason in
      the other direction so feeding off of
      each other and it doesn't in any way
      reflect what people are actually looking
      to hire at least in most cases and then
      some places are simply looking to do
      market research for example you're an
      employer and you want to know how much
      it might cost you to hire someone so
      that you can then go to management and
      talk about what it will cost to hire
      someone to do that one of the easiest
      and cheapest ways is to go onto a job
      site post a fake job that looks
      something like something you might hire
      and see what kind of price ranges and
      skill sets a number of candidates come
      back of course a lot of those candidates
      are fake the same way the job postings
      are but it still gives you a number to
      take the management and say look we
      could hire someone for X so we would
      like to then put a real job posting and
      see about hiring them that's so common
      that it's almost a stock way to do it
      because of this we have a lot of
      misinformation in the field whether it's
      misinformation about how hard it is to
      get a job because this makes people feel
      like they can submit to 100 jobs and
      only one answers them they feel like
      failures and they're more likely to
      accept less money or jump on an
      available position and it makes
      companies have a very hard time figuring
      out which candidates are real so it's
      the entire system becomes very very
      misleading because of this so as an IT
      pro as an IT practitioner what you need
      to understand and you need to
      internalize this because it's incredibly
      important is that when you see a job
      listing it doesn't matter whether you
      see one of them or a hundred of them it
      doesn't give you solid information about
      what the market is like about what that
      company is actually looking for or if
      that job is even real and this creates
      problems like people seeing requirements
      and believing falsely that requirements
      are very very strict but in reality
      companies put in really weird
      requirements into these fake job
      postings so that they always have an
      excuse to turn down anyone who comes up
      it doesn't matter whether it's the
      company doing it or a recruiter or
      whatever and this is where you see
      conflicting requirements all the time
      now of course there are some
      legitimately clueless people who put
      accidental conflicting requirements into
      job listings just because they don't
      know how to hire and they're incompetent
      it does happen but much more likely and
      much more logical is that conflicting
      requirements exist or illogical
      requirements
      exist so that no candidate will
      reasonably fit the requirements list and
      by doing this in most countries there
      are legal stipulations around who you
      can advertise a job to and why you can
      turn them down and if those people feel
      that they're being turned down for
      illegal reasons such as race sex age and
      so forth they may sue you because they
      feel that they can win and in many cases
      they could but if you have job
      requirements that they didn't meet such
      as simply demanding an illogical level
      of formal education or a mix of
      certificate certifications that you
      would be unlikely to have or a single
      piece of technical expertise that would
      take you out of the price range of some
      other job that you're looking for they
      can turn you down based on those factors
      and make it effectively impossible for
      you to take them to court even though
      they're actually discriminating and
      would have hired someone have they
      actually been looking without meeting
      those requirements and it makes IT pros
      feel that requirements exist that simply
      don't so that's kind of the basics and
      we're gonna build a lot on that but it's
      important to understand at a fundamental
      level that job postings are fake and
      there's very logical reasons why it's
      like that it's unfortunate but you must
      accept it or you're going to find job
      hunting and IT to be incredibly
      stressful misleading and difficult when
      okay it's going to be all those things
      but it doesn't have to be nearly as bad
      as it seems once we realize what's going
      on and we change our behavior to work
      around the way that that is happening
      thanks for joining me today here on this
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      • momurdaM
        momurda
        last edited by momurda

        How is the subtitles/cc done for YT videos? It is very accurate here.
        Anyway to get it to transcribe these to a document whose text you could put underneath your videos?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @momurda
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          @momurda said in Survey of Fake Jobs SAMIT Video:

          How is the subtitles/cc done for YT videos? It is very accurate here.

          YouTube does it, it is completely automatic.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @momurda
            last edited by

            @momurda said in Survey of Fake Jobs SAMIT Video:

            Anyway to get it to transcribe these to a document whose text you could put underneath your videos?

            Gotta find an easy way to pretty it up. But I know how to get it now, so I can work on that.

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