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    Water Closet
    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
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      @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

      Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.

      Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @dashrender said in I can't even:

        @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

        Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.

        Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?

        That's a weird use of stranded. Stranded is a type of cable, not something you do.

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @dashrender said in I can't even:

          @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

          Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.

          Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?

          Other way 'round.... solid to the patch panel, stranded in the patch cables to the switch.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @RojoLoco
            last edited by

            @rojoloco said in I can't even:

            @dashrender said in I can't even:

            @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

            Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.

            Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?

            Other way 'round.... solid to the patch panel, stranded in the patch cables to the switch.

            OK that makes a bit more sense.. but still, a lot of effort.

            I think it really depends - the creator of the original post on SW is crazy in their stated desire to tone every time he checks a cable - they why bother labeling at all? you either trust your label (on a cable or on a patch panel) or you don't.

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            • brianlittlejohnB
              brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender said in I can't even:

              @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

              Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.

              Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?

              No... i'm saying the opposite.

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              • RojoLocoR
                RojoLoco @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @dashrender said in I can't even:

                @rojoloco said in I can't even:

                @dashrender said in I can't even:

                @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

                Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.

                Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?

                Other way 'round.... solid to the patch panel, stranded in the patch cables to the switch.

                OK that makes a bit more sense.. but still, a lot of effort.

                Most install cable (inside the wall) is solid... that's where the solid cable comes in.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  Is told to setup a remote "server" running Windows 10 to act as their backup server.

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                    Is told to setup a remote "server" running Windows 10 to act as their backup server.

                    I asked what were the requirement as it was so confusing...

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                      Is told to setup a remote "server" running Windows 10 to act as their backup server.

                      Kathy. 17 years in IT

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                        Is told to setup a remote "server" running Windows 10 to act as their backup server.

                        Where do people find these consultants?

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                          @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                          Is told to setup a remote "server" running Windows 10 to act as their backup server.

                          Where do people find these consultants?

                          You can't just buy a desktop from BestBuy and run everything from that?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                            @stacksofplates said in I can't even:

                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                            @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                            Is told to setup a remote "server" running Windows 10 to act as their backup server.

                            Where do people find these consultants?

                            You can't just buy a desktop from BestBuy and run everything from that?

                            That would have been better than this!

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              Omg he's at it again!!!

                              Actually making an effort to steer people the wrong way.

                              https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2100629-fuzzy-hyper-v-practices?page=1#entry-7459694

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @tim_g He's ALWAYS trying to steer people the wrong way. He's angry that he looks like an idiot and takes it out on innocent newbies by trolling them. It's all he posts any more.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  The number if myths and misconceptions in this post are insane... I don't even know where to start!

                                  https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2100629-fuzzy-hyper-v-practices?page=2#entry-7462429

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by wirestyle22

                                    @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                    The number if myths and misconceptions in this post are insane... I don't even know where to start!

                                    https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2100629-fuzzy-hyper-v-practices?page=2#entry-7462429

                                    I'm 100% one of those dudes. When you're coming up not knowing anything, misinformation really throws you. Hard to know if the person teaching you is right or wrong in that situation and you're just absorbing everything.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                      last edited by

                                      @wirestyle22 said in I can't even:

                                      @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                      The number if myths and misconceptions in this post are insane... I don't even know where to start!

                                      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2100629-fuzzy-hyper-v-practices?page=2#entry-7462429

                                      I'm 100% one of those dudes. When you're coming up not knowing anything, misinformation really throws you. Hard to know if the person teaching you is right or wrong in that situation and you're just absorbing everything.

                                      The good starting point is to look for if they present good, solid logic for their reasons, or if they just tell you to do it their way; or they make ridiculous claims to cover for bad decision making like saying that "every company is unique." As if Russian roulette is smart "for some people", since everyone is a little different. Obviously some things are dumb for everyone.

                                      There are patterns to bad advice. Someone actually smart that really, really wants to trick you can do so. Someone just blowing smoke or completely incompetent is usually pretty simple to flush out without much effort. Robert, for example, never gives reasons for anything he recommends, he just makes personal attacks if people question him. He's really easy to spot as a troll rather than an IT Pro.

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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by wirestyle22

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        The good starting point is to look for if they present good, solid logic for their reasons, or if they just tell you to do it their way; or they make ridiculous claims to cover for bad decision making like saying that "every company is unique." As if Russian roulette is smart "for some people", since everyone is a little different. Obviously some things are dumb for everyone.

                                        We would hope that someone would chime in and challenge bad advice, but you have to understand that no everyone is as smart as you are. SW is a perfect example of how misinformation reigns king. The people who are the loudest are often the most incorrect.

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                                        • dbeatoD
                                          dbeato @wirestyle22
                                          last edited by

                                          @wirestyle22 said in I can't even:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                          The good starting point is to look for if they present good, solid logic for their reasons, or if they just tell you to do it their way; or they make ridiculous claims to cover for bad decision making like saying that "every company is unique." As if Russian roulette is smart "for some people", since everyone is a little different. Obviously some things are dumb for everyone.

                                          We would hope that someone would chime in and challenge bad advice, but you have to understand that no everyone is as smart as you are. SW is a perfect example of how misinformation reigns king. The people who are the loudest are often the most incorrect.

                                          I haven’t posted on that one yet. As you might know or not, I have a hard time getting a point across since I might come off very non chalant or very subtle. So we will see.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirestyle22 said in I can't even:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            The good starting point is to look for if they present good, solid logic for their reasons, or if they just tell you to do it their way; or they make ridiculous claims to cover for bad decision making like saying that "every company is unique." As if Russian roulette is smart "for some people", since everyone is a little different. Obviously some things are dumb for everyone.

                                            We would hope that someone would chime in and challenge bad advice, but you have to understand that no everyone is as smart as you are. SW is a perfect example of how misinformation reigns king. The people who are the loudest are often the most incorrect.

                                            But anyone asking for advice from people they have not tested should be looking for signs of knowledge versus bluster or trolling. You can't always tell, but expecting people to come to your defense and just accepting bad advice just because they do not isn't good adulting. At least attempting to look for signs of incompetence is important in any situation like this.

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