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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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      @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

      @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

      @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

      @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

      Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

      Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

      Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

      Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

      Before taxes.

      Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?

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      • bigbearB
        bigbear @Dashrender
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        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

        @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

        @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

        Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

        Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

        Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

        Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

        Before taxes.

        TMo has that taxes rolled in thing I guess?

        The only tax I seem to pay is sales tax. Hadn’t really looked before. It’s about 6%

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @DustinB3403
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          @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

          @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

          @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

          @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

          @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

          Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

          Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

          Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

          Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

          Before taxes.

          Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?

          No of course not, but I listed my prices in my post as post taxes.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @bigbear
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            @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

            @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

            @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

            Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

            Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

            Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

            Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

            Before taxes.

            TMo has that taxes rolled in thing I guess?

            The only tax I seem to pay is sales tax. Hadn’t really looked before. It’s about 6%

            Aww.. I forgot that TMo started that - "including taxes" bit. None the less, this doesn't apply, the $60 PrePaid was from ATT - who does not include the taxes in that.

            But huh? you saw an additional fee for 6% with TMo even after they claimed all taxes included?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

              @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

              @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

              @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

              @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

              Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

              Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

              Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

              Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

              Before taxes.

              Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?

              My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...

              The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

                Before taxes.

                Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?

                My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...

                The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).

                I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @DustinB3403
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                  @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                  @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                  @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                  @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                  @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                  @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                  @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                  Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                  Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                  Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                  Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

                  Before taxes.

                  Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?

                  My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...

                  The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).

                  I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.

                  It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @coliver
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                    @coliver Because they can make more money when they don't include the taxes. . .

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @coliver
                      last edited by

                      @coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                      Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                      Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                      Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                      Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

                      Before taxes.

                      Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?

                      My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...

                      The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).

                      I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.

                      It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.

                      Yes and no. I like the simplicity of seeing a price on the shelf and knowing that that's the price I'm spending before I walk up to the checkout counter (a la most of Europe - maybe more places), but I don't like that fact that the taxes then become a buried thing and basically we the people become divorced from what we are being charged for taxes.

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                      • bigbearB
                        bigbear @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                        Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                        Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                        Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                        Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

                        Before taxes.

                        Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?

                        My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...

                        The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).

                        I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.

                        It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.

                        Yes and no. I like the simplicity of seeing a price on the shelf and knowing that that's the price I'm spending before I walk up to the checkout counter (a la most of Europe - maybe more places), but I don't like that fact that the taxes then become a buried thing and basically we the people become divorced from what we are being charged for taxes.

                        Its basically no telecom tax, if you pay online with credit card there is just sales tax. If you buy a prepaid card in the store you pay sales tax then.

                        If you had a 3rd or 4th phone @Dashrender it really starts to get cheap lol. For my 8 year old I only paid $15 and he gets 6GB for his ipad, and texting. Calling he cant use until he gets an iPhone down the road.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                          Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                          Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                          Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                          Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

                          Before taxes.

                          Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?

                          My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...

                          The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).

                          I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.

                          It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.

                          Yes and no. I like the simplicity of seeing a price on the shelf and knowing that that's the price I'm spending before I walk up to the checkout counter (a la most of Europe - maybe more places), but I don't like that fact that the taxes then become a buried thing and basically we the people become divorced from what we are being charged for taxes.

                          You can't have it both ways. FFS stop bitching up both sides of the river.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @JaredBusch
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                            @jaredbusch said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                            Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                            Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                            Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                            Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

                            Before taxes.

                            Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?

                            My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...

                            The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).

                            I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.

                            It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.

                            Yes and no. I like the simplicity of seeing a price on the shelf and knowing that that's the price I'm spending before I walk up to the checkout counter (a la most of Europe - maybe more places), but I don't like that fact that the taxes then become a buried thing and basically we the people become divorced from what we are being charged for taxes.

                            You can't have it both ways. FFS stop bitching up both sides of the river.

                            I'm also not really sure what he's trying to get at? Taxes don't become buried if they are added to the sticker price. It is still incredibly easy to find sales tax rates for counties/states, as well as tax rates for specific things.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                              @jaredbusch said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                              Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                              Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                              Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                              Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

                              Before taxes.

                              Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?

                              My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...

                              The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).

                              I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.

                              It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.

                              Yes and no. I like the simplicity of seeing a price on the shelf and knowing that that's the price I'm spending before I walk up to the checkout counter (a la most of Europe - maybe more places), but I don't like that fact that the taxes then become a buried thing and basically we the people become divorced from what we are being charged for taxes.

                              You can't have it both ways. FFS stop bitching up both sides of the river.

                              Good morning sunshine. Given the choice, I'll keep it like it is in the US - don't include taxes.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @bigbear
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                                @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                @coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                                Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                                Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                                Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

                                Before taxes.

                                Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?

                                My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...

                                The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).

                                I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.

                                It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.

                                Yes and no. I like the simplicity of seeing a price on the shelf and knowing that that's the price I'm spending before I walk up to the checkout counter (a la most of Europe - maybe more places), but I don't like that fact that the taxes then become a buried thing and basically we the people become divorced from what we are being charged for taxes.

                                Its basically no telecom tax, if you pay online with credit card there is just sales tax. If you buy a prepaid card in the store you pay sales tax then.

                                If you had a 3rd or 4th phone @Dashrender it really starts to get cheap lol. For my 8 year old I only paid $15 and he gets 6GB for his ipad, and texting. Calling he cant use until he gets an iPhone down the road.

                                yeah - I saw that. I'm going to look into this today. This makes getting a LTE laptop much more tenable when I can add it for $30/m to my account as the third line. Still not sure it's worth that much to me...

                                oh - wait.. does this include teathering? Is that the rub? Instead of allowing me to tether, I have to buy and pay for a LTE sharing device?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @coliver
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                                  @coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                  @jaredbusch said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                  @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                  @coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                  @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                  @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                  @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                  @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                  @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                  Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                                  Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                                  Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                                  Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

                                  Before taxes.

                                  Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?

                                  My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...

                                  The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).

                                  I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.

                                  It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.

                                  Yes and no. I like the simplicity of seeing a price on the shelf and knowing that that's the price I'm spending before I walk up to the checkout counter (a la most of Europe - maybe more places), but I don't like that fact that the taxes then become a buried thing and basically we the people become divorced from what we are being charged for taxes.

                                  You can't have it both ways. FFS stop bitching up both sides of the river.

                                  I'm also not really sure what he's trying to get at? Taxes don't become buried if they are added to the sticker price. It is still incredibly easy to find sales tax rates for counties/states, as well as tax rates for specific things.

                                  It is? The tax rates of things were not broken out on many receipts when I was traveling... But almost all, if not all do in the US - the major exception is gasoline. Normal people (myself included) have no clue how much of the cost of gasoline is taxes.
                                  Hiding this information only serves to keep people from rioting when they see high taxes.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    Now - again, JB will say I'm being an alarmist or whatever he wants to call me today. And that might be true in his opinion. But I say it's important to be blatantly informed because by default the masses are just to lazy to dig into this kind of stuff.

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                                    • NerdyDadN
                                      NerdyDad @Dashrender
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                                      @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                      But I say it's important to be blatantly informed because by default the masses are just to lazy to dig into this kind of stuff.

                                      Yes, this is true.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @Dashrender
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                                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        @coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        @jaredbusch said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        @coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        @bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        @tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                        Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.

                                        Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.

                                        Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.

                                        Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now

                                        Before taxes.

                                        Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?

                                        My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...

                                        The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).

                                        I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.

                                        It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.

                                        Yes and no. I like the simplicity of seeing a price on the shelf and knowing that that's the price I'm spending before I walk up to the checkout counter (a la most of Europe - maybe more places), but I don't like that fact that the taxes then become a buried thing and basically we the people become divorced from what we are being charged for taxes.

                                        You can't have it both ways. FFS stop bitching up both sides of the river.

                                        I'm also not really sure what he's trying to get at? Taxes don't become buried if they are added to the sticker price. It is still incredibly easy to find sales tax rates for counties/states, as well as tax rates for specific things.

                                        It is? The tax rates of things were not broken out on many receipts when I was traveling... But almost all, if not all do in the US - the major exception is gasoline. Normal people (myself included) have no clue how much of the cost of gasoline is taxes.
                                        Hiding this information only serves to keep people from rioting when they see high taxes.

                                        In NY you pay 45 cents per gallon. With an additional 16 cents per gallon for federal taxes. So 61 cents per gallon is taxes. This is slightly lower if you don't live in NYC and slightly higher depending on local sales taxes. Just a decent ball park figure.

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                                          coliver @Dashrender
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                                          @dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                          Now - again, JB will say I'm being an alarmist or whatever he wants to call me today. And that might be true in his opinion. But I say it's important to be blatantly informed because by default the masses are just to lazy to dig into this kind of stuff.

                                          So catering to lazy people is the way to go!

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                                            @nerdydad said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:

                                            DISCLAIMER: I do not mean to become political with this next statement, but want to ask a question historically.

                                            Net Neutrality was an Obama era policy put in place by the FCC. So NN was not that old. What prompted for NN to be implemented in the first place? What problem was it supposed to fix administratively?

                                            "Obama era policy".. I've heard this parroted over and over again. It's not even relevant who was president when the regulations were put into place. I feel like that's just a way to phrase it to put it in a certain negative light. The neutrality of our Internet was a concern to a lot of people back then and both Democrats and Republicans were in agreement on the issue, which is why the regulations were put in place.

                                            Correct me if I'm wrong.

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