Server 'type' 1u vs 2u
-
This is an opinion type question.
I have two Dell PEt610s, a PE620, and some desktops running as servers.
Much of this will be going away as I retire them pulling them into the new domain. But planning and disposal is a quick pondering.
Replace nothing wrong with them, just 'over powered/ under storaged' Go with 1u or 2u replacements. I feel that two of the servers could be retired and merged into one,
Also moving from tower to rack so I can clean up things. If it'll help; I have a spread sheet with each and specs.
-
What's the question? Are you asking if you should go with a 1U or a 2U?
-
I've only ever used 1u and 2u.
2u is the normal for file servers and VM Hosts.
1U server are great for physical only machines for exmaple a spare DC is what I usually do. but if you have some other specialized server that can't go virtual and needs a physical machine without the need for a ton of resources (mainly storage) 1U is the way to go for a tightly packed rack.I think some of the newest 1Us can fit as much as the old 2U's did so it's probably just personal preference anymore.
-
It's just a chassis size difference. The only difference to know is how many drives do you need to fit into it. If you can fit all that you need in a 1U, that is half of the size. If you need more space, you get a 2U. That's all that there is to it.
I've used servers of every size from 1U to 9U plus ones that didn't fit in racks.
-
The number of Us that you want is as few as needed to get the job done. Otherwise you just look at the specs and buy the right server. I think that I must be missing something in the question.
-
I'm not completely sure what the question is.. I have the following - looking to replace much of it - maybe
PowerEdge T610
Service Tag: GCFFSL1 | Express Service Code: 35580042613
1 physical 146GB drive
HR Server: Running Abra Suite (uses MSSQL DB)
Also a file serverPowerEdge T610
Service Tag: C7QTXR1 | Express Service Code: 26589718045
7 physical: 3 73GB 4 500GB
Fiscal Server: Abilia
Also a file serverPowerEdge T620
Service Tag: 85RTGX1 | Express Service Code: 17763314149
6 physical: 6 500GB
Transportation: Vehicle dispatch / Fleet management
also a file server (limited)PowerEdge T310
Service Tag: 2XSBFN1 | Express Service Code: 6396511213
Running SpiceworksThe other three 'servers' are desktop boxes running either an external USB drive for a share or internal drive shares.
xByte may buy back hardware I have. I have a PE server still in a box - can't get to it since it's currently buried under other boxes, and a IBM class server. Goal is to par down but still have what I need.
Most of these are 4u units. The only one I don't think I can get rid of is the t620 since it was paid for with grant money - to much paper work.
-
The real question isn't what you have right now. It is what load is being used by those servers. Are all the drives full? Then you may want to look at a R730xd (I think that is how they denote it) which provides a silly amount of drive space / SSDs in a 2U box.
-
@g.jacobse whatcha gonna do with that old hardware :)?
-
@coliver said:
The real question isn't what you have right now. It is what load is being used by those servers. Are all the drives full? Then you may want to look at a R730xd (I think that is how they denote it) which provides a silly amount of drive space / SSDs in a 2U box.
The t620 is set up retardedly. 6 500GB drives; 3 logical drives at 500GB each. Two logical drives are 465GB Free. Not really a capacity issue.
I don't remember I worked with ZONES several months ago and ran a DPAC report.. I should find it. but the level wasn't enough to warrant this level of gear.
@Hubtech said:
@g.jacobse whatcha gonna do with that old hardware :)?
'Sell' it back to xbyte to offset the cost of the new box. Otherwise, I'll just keep it and make it right
-
@g.jacobse Well if that is the case it wouldn't hurt to reconfigure that array, one big RAID 10 would be a really good use of those drives.
What are you running into right now? Just too much gear for what you are doing? Are you virtualized?
-
@coliver said:
@g.jacobse Well if that is the case it wouldn't hurt to reconfigure that array, one big RAID 10 would be a really good use of those drives.
What are you running into right now? Just too much gear for what you are doing? Are you virtualized?
Not really running into any thing as of yet. Other that the biggest item.. IT'S NOT A DOMAIN! No Active Directory...(yes,..Insert Facepalm here).
No VMs running,.. though I have considered it.
-
@g.jacobse said:
@coliver said:
@g.jacobse Well if that is the case it wouldn't hurt to reconfigure that array, one big RAID 10 would be a really good use of those drives.
What are you running into right now? Just too much gear for what you are doing? Are you virtualized?
Not really running into any thing as of yet. Other that the biggest item.. IT'S NOT A DOMAIN! No Active Directory...(yes,..Insert Facepalm here).
No VMs running,.. though I have considered it.
Out of curiosity what are the current roles of these "servers"
-
@coliver
Updated device list above. -
Looks like one modern server could replace this whole lot, VMs baby!
-
@Dashrender said:
Looks like one modern server could replace this whole lot, VMs baby!
Not only that but I am beginning to think that the T620 you currently have could make for an excellent virtual host. Maybe sell your other servers and max out the RAM in that bad boy... Providing you aren't struggling with disk space or IOPS that would probably work fairly well..
-
It is pretty rare that an SMB cannot squeeze into a single physical host when set up correctly. Modern processors are so massively powerful and you can put so much memory and disk IO into a single chassis that it is really astounding what you can do in one chassis.
-
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
Looks like one modern server could replace this whole lot, VMs baby!
Not only that but I am beginning to think that the T620 you currently have could make for an excellent virtual host. Maybe sell your other servers and max out the RAM in that bad boy... Providing you aren't struggling with disk space or IOPS that would probably work fairly well..
I have the report showing my IOPS around here in email. I'm happy to post it, most of what we have is files,.. which may be getting smaller since the drive failure (still in the clean room for eval).
ALL of the servers / boxes need to be scrubbed and rebuilt IMO - total fubar in my opinion.. which since I'm not MCSE CCNA or any of the other alphabets,.. doesn't mean much to some.
I'm leaning towards 2 Physical (1 for AD) and going VM. However the software we use isn't supported in a VM environment...
-
why two servers? AD lives just fine on VMs. how big is your business?
-
@Hubtech said:
why two servers? AD lives just fine on VMs. how big is your business?
Large enough - We technically have two 'business' units. Over all we have about 300 employees. As for AD playing well with others, if Small Business Server could handle the 300 users AND was still production, I'd go that route. SBS worked very well for me in the past, and I had very little issues with it.
-
all i'm saying is...you could get 1 hot dog server and virtualize. but you do you boo boo!
