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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Emad R
      last edited by

      @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

      @emad-r

      Also to piss off MOAR ppl

      Centos is the best due stability and boy I love the LTS

      And Fedora is just desktop os that evolved into the server area and if there is really smart guys that want to use it as an server os be my guest. Please pave the way with your beta testing and downstream to centos . I have choosen my side.

      If you seriously think that, you are on crack.

      There is nothing wrong with choosing CentOS over Fedora, that is simply preference, but Fedora is not now, and never has been "just desktop os"

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce
        last edited by

        Your reasons for choosing CentOS don't align with your GUI choice.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @Emad R
          last edited by

          @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

          And Fedora is just desktop os that evolved into the server area and if there is really smart guys that want to use it as an server os be my guest. Please pave the way with your beta testing and downstream to centos . I have choosen my side.

          You have a serious misunderstanding of the Fedora/RHEL/CentOS relationship if you believe this is true.

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          • Emad RE
            Emad R @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @jaredbusch

            So they added a couple of things and container support and now people like them as a server os.

            If centos dies I will go to Debian. I want OS that is older than me , slow comfortable updates. Thank God I live in third world country where evolution takes centuries , we want centos.

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            • Emad RE
              Emad R @Obsolesce
              last edited by

              @tim_g said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

              Your reasons for choosing CentOS don't align with your GUI choice.

              0_1502220011084_Untitled.jpg

              In the above example I use 2 centos with not desktop environment + 1 Fedora with lxqt and I choose lxqt cause it is light

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              • Emad RE
                Emad R @Obsolesce
                last edited by

                @tim_g said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                @emad-r

                Also to piss off MOAR ppl

                Centos is the best due stability and boy I love the LTS

                And Fedora is just desktop os that evolved into the server area and if there is really smart guys that want to use it as an server os be my guest. Please pave the way with your beta testing and downstream to centos . I have choosen my side.

                What packages are you using on CentOS LTS that break on Fedora Server?

                It is the constant updates and fiddling around, didn't Scott had Fedora issue with storage recently ... I rest my case

                DustinB3403D wirestyle22W JaredBuschJ 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @Emad R
                  last edited by

                  @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                  @tim_g said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                  @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                  @emad-r

                  Also to piss off MOAR ppl

                  Centos is the best due stability and boy I love the LTS

                  And Fedora is just desktop os that evolved into the server area and if there is really smart guys that want to use it as an server os be my guest. Please pave the way with your beta testing and downstream to centos . I have choosen my side.

                  What packages are you using on CentOS LTS that break on Fedora Server?

                  It is the constant updates and fiddling around, didn't Scott had Fedora issue with storage recently ... I rest my case

                  Yeah Scott had an issue with inodes.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @Emad R
                    last edited by wirestyle22

                    @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                    @tim_g said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                    @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                    @emad-r

                    Also to piss off MOAR ppl

                    Centos is the best due stability and boy I love the LTS

                    And Fedora is just desktop os that evolved into the server area and if there is really smart guys that want to use it as an server os be my guest. Please pave the way with your beta testing and downstream to centos . I have choosen my side.

                    What packages are you using on CentOS LTS that break on Fedora Server?

                    It is the constant updates and fiddling around, didn't Scott had Fedora issue with storage recently ... I rest my case

                    He could've had the same issue with any distro. inodes aren't specific to Fedora, or even Linux (File ID's in Windows)

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Emad R
                      last edited by

                      @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                      @jaredbusch

                      So they added a couple of things and container support and now people like them as a server os.

                      If centos dies I will go to Debian. I want OS that is older than me , slow comfortable updates. Thank God I live in third world country where evolution takes centuries , we want centos.

                      I guess you are too young to have lived though this, but RedHat Linux became both RedHat Enterprise Linux and Fedora Project.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Emad R
                        last edited by

                        @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                        @tim_g said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                        @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                        @emad-r

                        Also to piss off MOAR ppl

                        Centos is the best due stability and boy I love the LTS

                        And Fedora is just desktop os that evolved into the server area and if there is really smart guys that want to use it as an server os be my guest. Please pave the way with your beta testing and downstream to centos . I have choosen my side.

                        What packages are you using on CentOS LTS that break on Fedora Server?

                        It is the constant updates and fiddling around, didn't Scott had Fedora issue with storage recently ... I rest my case

                        That had nothing to do with Fedora. Did you not bother to read the thread?

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                        • Emad RE
                          Emad R
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                          @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                          And Fedora is just desktop os that evolved into the server area and if there is really smart guys that want to use it as an server os be my guest. Please pave the way with your beta testing and downstream to centos . I have choosen my side.

                          You have a serious misunderstanding of the Fedora/RHEL/CentOS relationship if you believe this is true.

                          I won't deny that, it can get confusing.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @Emad R
                            last edited by

                            @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                            @coliver said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                            @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                            And Fedora is just desktop os that evolved into the server area and if there is really smart guys that want to use it as an server os be my guest. Please pave the way with your beta testing and downstream to centos . I have choosen my side.

                            You have a serious misunderstanding of the Fedora/RHEL/CentOS relationship if you believe this is true.

                            I won't deny that, it can get confusing.

                            Not really. Google can tell you.
                            https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2003-September/msg00064.html
                            http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/History_of_Red_Hat_Linux

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @Emad R
                              last edited by

                              @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                              I got triggered cause there can be only 1 KVM MASTER

                              It's weird that you're attempting to take the KVM Master role with a GUI install

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                I got triggered cause there can be only 1 KVM MASTER

                                It's weird that you're attempting to take the KVM Master role with a GUI install

                                Why is that any more weird? The CLI is still there to be used, but as far as a tool goes, a GUI is just another one. . .

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                                • Emad RE
                                  Emad R @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @jaredbusch said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                  @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                  @tim_g said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                  @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                  @emad-r

                                  Also to piss off MOAR ppl

                                  Centos is the best due stability and boy I love the LTS

                                  And Fedora is just desktop os that evolved into the server area and if there is really smart guys that want to use it as an server os be my guest. Please pave the way with your beta testing and downstream to centos . I have choosen my side.

                                  What packages are you using on CentOS LTS that break on Fedora Server?

                                  It is the constant updates and fiddling around, didn't Scott had Fedora issue with storage recently ... I rest my case

                                  That had nothing to do with Fedora. Did you not bother to read the thread?

                                  But i have gut feeling with centos it wouldn't happen. But let us stop with this personal choice even though it is clear what is the good choice and just look and appreciate the ultimate KVM set-up

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @dustinb3403 said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                    @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                    I got triggered cause there can be only 1 KVM MASTER

                                    It's weird that you're attempting to take the KVM Master role with a GUI install

                                    Why is that any more weird? The CLI is still there to be used, but as far as a tool goes, a GUI is just another one. . .

                                    It's wasted resources. I'd think the KVM Master would be as efficient as possible.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @Emad R
                                      last edited by

                                      @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                      @jaredbusch said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                      @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                      @tim_g said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                      @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                      @emad-r

                                      Also to piss off MOAR ppl

                                      Centos is the best due stability and boy I love the LTS

                                      And Fedora is just desktop os that evolved into the server area and if there is really smart guys that want to use it as an server os be my guest. Please pave the way with your beta testing and downstream to centos . I have choosen my side.

                                      What packages are you using on CentOS LTS that break on Fedora Server?

                                      It is the constant updates and fiddling around, didn't Scott had Fedora issue with storage recently ... I rest my case

                                      That had nothing to do with Fedora. Did you not bother to read the thread?

                                      But i have gut feeling with centos it wouldn't happen. But let us stop with this personal choice even though it is clear what is the good choice and just look and appreciate the ultimate KVM set-up

                                      CentOS uses inodes too. Every Distro uses inodes.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @Emad R
                                        last edited by

                                        @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                        @coliver said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                        @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                        And Fedora is just desktop os that evolved into the server area and if there is really smart guys that want to use it as an server os be my guest. Please pave the way with your beta testing and downstream to centos . I have choosen my side.

                                        You have a serious misunderstanding of the Fedora/RHEL/CentOS relationship if you believe this is true.

                                        I won't deny that, it can get confusing.

                                        Not really. Fedora is the base of both RHEL and CentOS. It's the regular release vs the RHEL LTS. If you're calling Fedora not fit to be on a server that means that both RHEL and CentOS are both equally unfit.

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                                        • Emad RE
                                          Emad R @wirestyle22
                                          last edited by

                                          @wirestyle22 said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                          @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                          I got triggered cause there can be only 1 KVM MASTER

                                          It's weird that you're attempting to take the KVM Master role with a GUI install

                                          No no no

                                          It is 2 centos minimal install with kvm
                                          No gui

                                          And 1 Fedora with lxqt spin with Virt Manager

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirestyle22 said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                            @emad-r said in The Ultimate KVM setup:

                                            I got triggered cause there can be only 1 KVM MASTER

                                            It's weird that you're attempting to take the KVM Master role with a GUI install

                                            Why is that any more weird? The CLI is still there to be used, but as far as a tool goes, a GUI is just another one. . .

                                            It's wasted resources. I'd think the KVM Master would be as efficient as possible.

                                            If a tool is needed, why would it be wasted resources? I get what you are trying to get at here, but a tool is a tool is a tool.

                                            If you need a GUI to do something (whatever it is) and it's the best approach "you" know then why bash the tool?

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