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    • J
      Jimmy9008
      last edited by Jimmy9008

      Hey folks,

      I'm setting up ACL on Dell N2048 switch.
      I have host hooked up to te1 (10 GbE Interface 1). That host has a VM. The VM has IP 192.168.2.41/24.

      We have another server 192.168.2.117/24. This connects to the N2048 via one of the 1GbE interfaces.

      I setup the ACL rule based on IP, and applied to te1 as below:

      0_1498742416271_N2048.PNG

      Looks simple enough to me. Source 2.117, deny, destination 2.41, on te1...

      Yet, upon applying the rule... all VMs sitting on the host plugged in to te1 become unavailable to all devices on the LAN, not just 2.117. Removal of the rule restored access instantly. So yah, killed part of my live network - but, I cannot see why. The screenshot looks simple enough but I must be missing something.

      In the documentation 0.0.0.255 should be used for /24.

      So, what am I missing?

      Ta,
      Jim

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      • J
        Jimmy9008
        last edited by

        This is the rule, applying the rule to te1 is done on a different page. But is literally selecting the interface and the rule, and clicking apply. So wont bother with that image.

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre
          last edited by

          What happens if you choose the "HOST" option instead of IP and Mask? The Wildcard Mask you are using says "everything on this subnet" if I remember right.

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          • J
            Jimmy9008
            last edited by

            I actually have not tried yet and wanted to do some research first before killing production again 😛

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            • J
              Jimmy9008
              last edited by

              So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @Jimmy9008
                last edited by dafyre

                @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

                I would use the IP addresses.

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                • EddieJenningsE
                  EddieJennings @Jimmy9008
                  last edited by

                  @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                  So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

                  And you'll probably have to change the wildcard mask to match all parts of the IP of the host.

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                  • J
                    Jimmy9008
                    last edited by

                    @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                    So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

                    Yep, will do. I shall move critical VMs to the te2 and then try.

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                    • J
                      Jimmy9008 @EddieJennings
                      last edited by

                      @EddieJennings

                      @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                      @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                      So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

                      And you'll probably have to change the wildcard mask to match all parts of the IP of the host.

                      Can ip be used with host selected, but mask left empty you think?

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre
                        last edited by

                        If you pick host, I think Wildcard Mask may not even be used.

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                          Jimmy9008 @Jimmy9008
                          last edited by

                          @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                          @EddieJennings

                          @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                          @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                          So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

                          And you'll probably have to change the wildcard mask to match all parts of the IP of the host.

                          Can ip be used with host selected, but mask left empty you think?

                          With host selected, wild card is defaulted to 0.0.0.0 and disabled. So cannot edit that anyway with host selected.

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                          • EddieJenningsE
                            EddieJennings @Jimmy9008
                            last edited by

                            @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                            @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                            @EddieJennings

                            @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                            @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                            So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

                            And you'll probably have to change the wildcard mask to match all parts of the IP of the host.

                            Can ip be used with host selected, but mask left empty you think?

                            With host selected, wild card is defaulted to 0.0.0.0 and disabled. So cannot edit that anyway with host selected.

                            That makes sense as the wildcard would be 0.0.0.0.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @Jimmy9008
                              last edited by

                              @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                              @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                              @EddieJennings

                              @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                              @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                              So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

                              And you'll probably have to change the wildcard mask to match all parts of the IP of the host.

                              Can ip be used with host selected, but mask left empty you think?

                              With host selected, wild card is defaulted to 0.0.0.0 and disabled. So cannot edit that anyway with host selected.

                              That's probably the option you are looking for then.

                              *puts on a dang helmet and hides under desk.*

                              Ready when you are!

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                                Jimmy9008 @dafyre
                                last edited by

                                @dafyre said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                @EddieJennings

                                @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

                                And you'll probably have to change the wildcard mask to match all parts of the IP of the host.

                                Can ip be used with host selected, but mask left empty you think?

                                With host selected, wild card is defaulted to 0.0.0.0 and disabled. So cannot edit that anyway with host selected.

                                That's probably the option you are looking for then.

                                *puts on a dang helmet and hides under desk.*

                                Ready when you are!

                                Have to move some critical VMs off of that interface before trying again first.
                                With the N2048's, does deny take precedence over allow?

                                For example, can I deny range 192.168.2.60 - 80 first. Then next following rule allow 192.168.2.69 only? Or would deny stick?

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @Jimmy9008
                                  last edited by

                                  @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                  @dafyre said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                  @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                  @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                  @EddieJennings

                                  @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                  @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                  So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

                                  And you'll probably have to change the wildcard mask to match all parts of the IP of the host.

                                  Can ip be used with host selected, but mask left empty you think?

                                  With host selected, wild card is defaulted to 0.0.0.0 and disabled. So cannot edit that anyway with host selected.

                                  That's probably the option you are looking for then.

                                  *puts on a dang helmet and hides under desk.*

                                  Ready when you are!

                                  Have to move some critical VMs off of that interface before trying again first.
                                  With the N2048's, does deny take precedence over allow?

                                  For example, can I deny range 192.168.2.60 - 80 first. Then next following rule allow 192.168.2.69 only? Or would deny stick?

                                  That I'm not sure about.

                                  IIRC, on Cisco and HP devices, it's allow and then deny. It's been a while since I've had to test that theory though, so don't quote me on it.

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                                  • EddieJenningsE
                                    EddieJennings
                                    last edited by

                                    I thought it was the order of the ACLs (at least on Cisco stuff). Once there is a match, everything else is ignored.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @EddieJennings
                                      last edited by

                                      @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                      I thought it was the order of the ACLs (at least on Cisco stuff). Once there is a match, everything else is ignored.

                                      I think you may well be right. But like I said above -- it has been a while for me.

                                      Best I can tell @Jimmy9008 is to try it and let us know what happens, ha ha ha.

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                                      • J
                                        Jimmy9008
                                        last edited by

                                        Once the critical VMs are moved, I shall have a play and see.

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                                        • J
                                          Jimmy9008 @dafyre
                                          last edited by

                                          @dafyre

                                          @dafyre said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                          @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                          I thought it was the order of the ACLs (at least on Cisco stuff). Once there is a match, everything else is ignored.

                                          I think you may well be right. But like I said above -- it has been a while for me.

                                          Best I can tell @Jimmy9008 is to try it and let us know what happens, ha ha ha.

                                          😉

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                                          • J
                                            Jimmy9008
                                            last edited by

                                            So... VMs moved. Rule applied based only on host.... and 3... 2... 1... still brought down everything trying to connect to anything on te1... current rule:

                                            0_1498745208802_N2048-2.PNG

                                            Ideas? Must be missing something obvious. Or is the dell firmware buggered!

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