What is the best way to get reloaded Windows 7 up to date?
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@stess said in What is the best way to get reloaded Windows 7 up to date?:
The program looks sketchy....
yep it does, but it does work.
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The short answer is that there is not a best way.
There is some kind of throttling or behind the scenes crap happening that causes any non Windows 10 system to take forever to get updates.
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The best way is to stop deploying Windows 7. The next best way is to keep your master image up to date and deploy that instead of an old un-updated image.
After you are deployed, I'd use WSUS to keep it up to date. This way, you never have to waste time on that crap as it can all be 100% automated.
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@Tim_G Ya id have to say that is the best way; I just did this without an uptodate image the other day on 8.1, took 7 hours to install the updates though, there were 220 or so of them.
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@momurda said in What is the best way to get reloaded Windows 7 up to date?:
@Tim_G Ya id have to say that is the best way; I just did this without an uptodate image the other day on 8.1, took 7 hours to install the updates though, there were 220 or so of them.
But if you watch the performance tab of task manager, for most of that time, nothing was happening.
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@stess I found two magic updates that work with SP1. Updates take about an hour. I'll post them when I login to my work computer.
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These are the 4 I install that gets windows update process working normally.
KB3020369
KB3125574
KB3145739
KB3172605 -
I posted on this the same in Spiceworks as below:
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2006676-complete-windows-update-package-for-windows-7?page=1#entry-6984467 -
Does this help:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivirus/Security-and-Critical-Releases-ISO-Image.shtml
Contains security updates as ISO images, This DVD5 ISO image file from Microsoft contains the security updates for Windows this does not contain security updates for other Microsoft products including Microsoft Office. This DVD5 ISO image is intended for administrators that need to download multiple individual language versions of each security update in the case that they don't use Windows Update or Windows Server Update Services.
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@Dashrender said in What is the best way to get reloaded Windows 7 up to date?:
Google WSUS Offline
It's great.
You can even put all the updates in a pendrive with this program.
I use it a lot.
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I had this recently. Took the entire weekend!
I have no answer except to say that back in the day, like decade+ ago, we used to do a trick to get the updates to be included in the actual install media. They would be installed along with the OS from the start.
Or do like Scott said and create a reference system that is up to date and then do the OEM install preparation routing thingy to turn it into an image that can install anywhere and won't be borked from preinstalled drivers and such. It prepares it as a clean system.
What I'm more surprised about is that MS doesn't offer any download that is already up to date to some degree. All we get is SP1. Now there is about 150GB of updates to do after that. Like 200+ individual updates.
So frustrating!
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@guyinpv said in What is the best way to get reloaded Windows 7 up to date?:
What I'm more surprised about is that MS doesn't offer any download that is already up to date to some degree. All we get is SP1. Now there is about 150GB of updates to do after that. Like 200+ individual updates.
I'm not surprised about this at all. MS wants to make it as painful as possible for you to stay in the past.
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@Dashrender said in What is the best way to get reloaded Windows 7 up to date?:
@guyinpv said in What is the best way to get reloaded Windows 7 up to date?:
What I'm more surprised about is that MS doesn't offer any download that is already up to date to some degree. All we get is SP1. Now there is about 150GB of updates to do after that. Like 200+ individual updates.
I'm not surprised about this at all. MS wants to make it as painful as possible for you to stay in the past.
This. MS will do nothing to make it easy. They have a ton of interest in making Windows 10 easy and Windows not-10 hard.
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@Dashrender said in What is the best way to get reloaded Windows 7 up to date?:
@guyinpv said in What is the best way to get reloaded Windows 7 up to date?:
What I'm more surprised about is that MS doesn't offer any download that is already up to date to some degree. All we get is SP1. Now there is about 150GB of updates to do after that. Like 200+ individual updates.
I'm not surprised about this at all. MS wants to make it as painful as possible for you to stay in the past.
But they didn't really have a solution to this even when Win7 was the latest thing!
I remember in my bench tech days, we did a lot of reloads, upgrading HDDs. We had a U-shaped desk system with KVMs so we could hook up like 8 systems. Most of the time it was new installs doing endless updates! KVM switch between machines just to click "Yes" to restarting after another batch of updates.
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Sure they did. They made service pack one. After that they came out with Windows 8. What's the next version of the operating system comes out Microsoft really doesn't give a shit about the old one. They put their big effort into making the move to the new version.
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@Dashrender said in What is the best way to get reloaded Windows 7 up to date?:
Sure they did. They made service pack one. After that they came out with Windows 8. What's the next version of the operating system comes out Microsoft really doesn't give a shit about the old one. They put their big effort into making the move to the new version.
As it should be. It's not a new product, it's just the update to the old one.
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Still, they built the mechanism/ability of including updates in the install media. It would take all of 1 engineer all of 1 hour to compile an updated ISO and stick it online.
Over the course of 10 years it probably would have reduced the load on their update servers by a fantastical amount.
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@guyinpv said in What is the best way to get reloaded Windows 7 up to date?:
Still, they built the mechanism/ability of including updates in the install media. It would take all of 1 engineer all of 1 hour to compile an updated ISO and stick it online.
Over the course of 10 years it probably would have reduced the load on their update servers by a fantastical amount.
Would it? Does MS publish a Win 7 ISO for the public? I don't recall ever seeing one.
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@Dashrender said in What is the best way to get reloaded Windows 7 up to date?:
@guyinpv said in What is the best way to get reloaded Windows 7 up to date?:
Still, they built the mechanism/ability of including updates in the install media. It would take all of 1 engineer all of 1 hour to compile an updated ISO and stick it online.
Over the course of 10 years it probably would have reduced the load on their update servers by a fantastical amount.
Would it? Does MS publish a Win 7 ISO for the public? I don't recall ever seeing one.
Not officially I guess. MS never published links or publicized the info themselves but for a long time it was possible to download ISOs for many products including Win 7 from Digital River as long as you knew the direct link location. There were a few websites that maintained extensive lists.
I think this is not so much the case these days.
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@NDC @Dashrender I would recommend this tool then
https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technology-science/microsoft/67-microsoft-windows-and-office-iso-download-toolIt works well for version 7 to 10 amd office downloads.
