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    • AdamFA
      AdamF @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

      So that's why my VM got shut off.

      Yeah, stop mining for bitcoin.

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        gjacobse @AdamF
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        @fuznutz04 said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

        @scottalanmiller said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

        So that's why my VM got shut off.

        Yeah, stop mining for bitcoin.

        There goes this years bonus program...

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        • NerdyDadN
          NerdyDad
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          For as much business we send their way, one would think that they would pay some attention. Or are we just small potatoes?

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          • AdamFA
            AdamF @NerdyDad
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            @NerdyDad said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

            For as much business we send their way, one would think that they would pay some attention. Or are we just small potatoes?

            This was a first for me. I've never had any issues with "noisy neighbors " before. Or if I have, I've never noticed it before. Since this is s PBX, I noticed it immediately.

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              Alex Sage @AdamF
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              @fuznutz04 what plan?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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                @aaronstuder said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

                @fuznutz04 what plan?

                Not relevant of course.

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                • dbeatoD
                  dbeato @NerdyDad
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                  @NerdyDad LOL, I bet they don't have specific instances for Mangolassit IT accounts 😛 I mean my Ubiquiti VM has been running fine but is a controller with low usage unless there is updates or changes.

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                  • bigbearB
                    bigbear
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                    Kicking this thread back up because I am looking at RDSH on Vultr vs Azure. Are dedicated instances bare metal?

                    Ironically their marketing for dedicated instances clearly says "Goodbye Noisy Neighbors" I cant imagine a dedicated blade (guessing a single vm on KVM running on a blade) for the prices they offer.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                      @bigbear said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

                      Kicking this thread back up because I am looking at RDSH on Vultr vs Azure. Are dedicated instances bare metal?

                      No one would use bare metal. It would make them a laughingstock and no one could ever talk about them as a business class vendor again. And it would be unnecessarily costly and weird. It's just dedicated.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                        @bigbear said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

                        Ironically their marketing for dedicated instances clearly says "Goodbye Noisy Neighbors" I cant imagine a dedicated blade (guessing a single vm on KVM running on a blade) for the prices they offer.

                        Blades aren't cost effective. Very unlikely that they would use costly technology like that.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Vultr dedicated definitely can't be physical since they offer VMs of partial servers. You need virtualization to carve up a server.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                            @bigbear said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

                            I cant imagine a dedicated blade (guessing a single vm on KVM running on a blade) for the prices they offer.

                            $240/mo for a single eight core CPU and 32GB RAM? That's trivially easy to do. They make great money on one of those instances. You can easily deploy a full 1U for that. In fact, for that price, I can easily afford to go to xByte, buy a server for you, ship it to Colocation America, pay for a 1U hosting plan and set it up for you. You don't need any economy of scale to make that plan financially profitable. That's $2,880/year revenue on a piece of hardware that only costs $800 to purchase!

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                              StorageNinja Vendor @NerdyDad
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                              @NerdyDad Yes you are 🙂

                              In all seriousness I wouldn't run a PBX on anything that didn't have a dedicated resource pool (Transcoding can do funny things when it doesn't have equal access to the CPU clock). This is generally in the install guide for a lot of PBX systems.

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                                StorageNinja Vendor @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller Check out OVH. Largest hosting provider in EMEA. BareMetal and you run your own whatever or dedicated vCenter/ESXi private cloud stuff.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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                                  @John-Nicholson said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

                                  @scottalanmiller Check out OVH. Largest hosting provider in EMEA. BareMetal and you run your own whatever or dedicated vCenter/ESXi private cloud stuff.

                                  Someone here tested them and had problems I thought.

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                                  • bigbearB
                                    bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller I was actually looking at the $60 and $120 versions.

                                    Was just thinking... click - click and I am up and running vs ordering and shipping to colo and using all the tools to install my software remotely.

                                    At the $240 price point I agree with you though.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

                                      @John-Nicholson said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

                                      @scottalanmiller Check out OVH. Largest hosting provider in EMEA. BareMetal and you run your own whatever or dedicated vCenter/ESXi private cloud stuff.

                                      Someone here tested them and had problems I thought.

                                      I'm using OVH. I'm not having any problems at all except for the ones I cause myself, ha ha ha.

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                                      • bigbearB
                                        bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

                                        @bigbear said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

                                        Kicking this thread back up because I am looking at RDSH on Vultr vs Azure. Are dedicated instances bare metal?

                                        No one would use bare metal. It would make them a laughingstock and no one could ever talk about them as a business class vendor again. And it would be unnecessarily costly and weird. It's just dedicated.

                                        Yeah I was actually hoping it was not bare-metal and that it was at least a dedicated VM running on its own blade with some redundancy etc.

                                        But I see what you are seeing, the resources are dedicated to that VM in KVM I suppose?

                                        Anyway with the RDSH server I am deploying I don't want to risk any "noisy neighbors" so that caught my I. Incredible value in cost vs Azure, which I initially completely miscalculated.

                                        And I am curious to see if Vultr has less latency than Azure at this point.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                                          @bigbear said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

                                          @scottalanmiller I was actually looking at the $60 and $120 versions.

                                          Was just thinking... click - click and I am up and running vs ordering and shipping to colo and using all the tools to install my software remotely.

                                          At the $240 price point I agree with you though.

                                          Right, but those lower prices are just shared on the hardware. So the total always comes out to $240/mo/server for Vultr. So sure, if you just 1/4th of a server for $60/mo. But you get so little for that. When would that be worth it?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                                            @bigbear said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

                                            Yeah I was actually hoping it was not bare-metal and that it was at least a dedicated VM running on its own blade with some redundancy etc.

                                            But I see what you are seeing, the resources are dedicated to that VM in KVM I suppose?

                                            Yes, that's what it is. And no, you would never want a blade, ever. Not as the buyer, not as a customer. Blade = costly, risky and slow. Blades have a few use cases where they make sense, but as the customer you'd never wish for a blade. Blades are just "corners cut" on good servers.

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