What Are You Doing Right Now

scottalanmiller

@Tim_G said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Is Robert5205 being serious?

I think maybe, oh man.

wirestyle22

@Tim_G said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Is Robert5205 being serious?

Wow. Just refreshed the page.

scottalanmiller

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Tim_G said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Is Robert5205 being serious?

Wow. Just refreshed the page.

Yeah, advice fail right there I mean I get his point, but I don't agree. It's "you don't know how to do your job to a minimum level of competence, so let's just gloss over that and give bad advice since it's too hard to treat you like a professional." If I gave that same advice people would be all over me for being condescending and thinking that the OP was too "dumb" to do his job. But other people treat him like a child and it's considered normal.

dbeato

@scottalanmiller Sometimes Robert makes that point.

wirestyle22

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Tim_G said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Is Robert5205 being serious?

Wow. Just refreshed the page.

Yeah, advice fail right there I mean I get his point, but I don't agree. It's "you don't know how to do your job to a minimum level of competence, so let's just gloss over that and give bad advice since it's too hard to treat you like a professional." If I gave that same advice people would be all over me for being condescending and thinking that the OP was too "dumb" to do his job. But other people treat him like a child and it's considered normal.

@Tim_G said it best. There is no rush for him to move immediately. It's not a disaster recovery scenario so it presents itself as an excellent learning experience, which should ultimately be his end goal.

scottalanmiller

@Eltolargo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller Sometimes Robert makes that point.

Yeah, but not too often. I do feel that in this case, excusing bare metal install is a form of condescension. Not holding the OP to the level of a peer but "dumbing down" the advice for him.

dbeato

@scottalanmiller Yeah, it is like the last gasp of advice that doesn't insult you but insults you. I like Robert's comments from the most part since they are well thought.

wirestyle22

@Eltolargo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller Yeah, it is like the last gasp of advice that doesn't insult you but insults you. I like Robert's comments from the most part since they are well thought.

Is that what my future is going to be? I'm going to acquire all of this knowledge and then resent people who ask me for it? It's like sitting on a tower of gold but never spending any of it and then you die. What's the point?

dbeato

@wirestyle22 It shouldn't be

wirestyle22

Do they alias certain commands in linux because its easier than actually changing them?

type ls shows that ls is actually 'ls --color=tty' as an example

scottalanmiller

@Eltolargo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller Yeah, it is like the last gasp of advice that doesn't insult you but insults you. I like Robert's comments from the most part since they are well thought.

Generally, yes. And I see where he is going here, I just don't agree. I feel like it is setting the guy up for more failure.

scottalanmiller

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Eltolargo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller Yeah, it is like the last gasp of advice that doesn't insult you but insults you. I like Robert's comments from the most part since they are well thought.

Is that what my future is going to be? I'm going to acquire all of this knowledge and then resent people who ask me for it? It's like sitting on a tower of gold but never spending any of it and then you die. What's the point?

No, you'll resent people who ask for it but don't believe you

scottalanmiller

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Do they alias certain commands in linux because its easier than actually changing them?

type ls shows that ls is actually 'ls --color=tty' as an example

It's because changing them would be inappropriate.

scottalanmiller

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wirestyle22

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Do they alias certain commands in linux because its easier than actually changing them?

type ls shows that ls is actually 'ls --color=tty' as an example

It's because changing them would be inappropriate.

Can you elaborate a little bit? Isn't the point of the --color modifier to make it easier to see things like broken hard links? Seems like it should just automatically a part of ls and they agree or it wouldn't be an alias--or would it?

scottalanmiller

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Do they alias certain commands in linux because its easier than actually changing them?

type ls shows that ls is actually 'ls --color=tty' as an example

It's because changing them would be inappropriate.

Can you elaborate a little bit? Isn't the point of the --color modifier to make it easier to see things like broken hard links? Seems like it should just automatically a part of ls and they agree or it wouldn't be an alias

But that doesn't change the command. It's the same command, just an alias. Modify it however you like. It's just changing "options", not the code. To change the command itself would be forking it and making it a new command totally and each distro would have to maintain their own codebase for forever - instead of just selecting a setting.

wirestyle22

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Do they alias certain commands in linux because its easier than actually changing them?

type ls shows that ls is actually 'ls --color=tty' as an example

It's because changing them would be inappropriate.

Can you elaborate a little bit? Isn't the point of the --color modifier to make it easier to see things like broken hard links? Seems like it should just automatically a part of ls and they agree or it wouldn't be an alias

But that doesn't change the command. It's the same command, just an alias. Modify it however you like. It's just changing "options", not the code. To change the command itself would be forking it and making it a new command totally and each distro would have to maintain their own codebase for forever - instead of just selecting a setting.

Thanks

scottalanmiller

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@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

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Grey

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Tim_G said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Is Robert5205 being serious?

Wow. Just refreshed the page.

Yeah, advice fail right there I mean I get his point, but I don't agree. It's "you don't know how to do your job to a minimum level of competence, so let's just gloss over that and give bad advice since it's too hard to treat you like a professional." If I gave that same advice people would be all over me for being condescending and thinking that the OP was too "dumb" to do his job. But other people treat him like a child and it's considered normal.

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