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      NashBrydges @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

      @NashBrydges said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

      Is Fedora ext4 by default? Can you choose XFS during install?

      XFS, EXT4, BtrFS... you can configure basically anything during the install.

      Thanks.

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        JaredBusch
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        Yes, by default it is ext4 if you let it partition as shown.

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          StrongBad
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          Why ext4 as a default? Feels like they are moving backwards there. They made the move to XFS from ext4 already.

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            FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

            @FATeknollogee said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

            @JaredBusch Let's say you want to use this VM as a file server.
            Is it better to create 2 disks (1 for o/s + 1 for storage) or just one big ass disk?

            As this example showed, I had a 127GB disk because I let Hyper-V Server 2016 use its default.

            Fedora only took 17GB of it. 2GB for swap and 15GB for root.

            The rest is sitting there waiting to be used however you want.

            So all you have to do is make the space usable.

            #create a logical volume named data
            lvcreate -l 100%FREE -n data fedora
            
            #format it to ext4
            mkfs.ext4 /dev/fedora/data
            
            #make a directory to mount it
            mkdir /data
            
            #mount it
            mount /dev/fedora/data /data
            

            Obviously you will want to have this mounted on reboot, so add it to /etc/fstab

            nano /etc/fstab
            
            #add this
            /dev/fedora/data /data                    ext4    defaults        1 2
            

            edit: If I have 2 virtual disks (1 for o/s + 1 for data). Anyone have a simple "how to do this" guide on the 2nd disk: /dev/xvdb or /dev/sdb ? (I read some guides on the 'net, thy all seem long & winded)

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              JaredBusch @StrongBad
              last edited by JaredBusch

              @StrongBad said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

              Why ext4 as a default? Feels like they are moving backwards there. They made the move to XFS from ext4 already.

              No idea, but what you are seeing in this thread is what you get from a 127GB vhdx and let Fedora do automatic partitioning as shown above (edit: copied below)
              https://i.imgur.com/zZlenx9.png

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                travisdh1 @FATeknollogee
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                @FATeknollogee said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                @JaredBusch said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                @FATeknollogee said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                @JaredBusch Let's say you want to use this VM as a file server.
                Is it better to create 2 disks (1 for o/s + 1 for storage) or just one big ass disk?

                As this example showed, I had a 127GB disk because I let Hyper-V Server 2016 use its default.

                Fedora only took 17GB of it. 2GB for swap and 15GB for root.

                The rest is sitting there waiting to be used however you want.

                So all you have to do is make the space usable.

                #create a logical volume named data
                lvcreate -l 100%FREE -n data fedora
                
                #format it to ext4
                mkfs.ext4 /dev/fedora/data
                
                #make a directory to mount it
                mkdir /data
                
                #mount it
                mount /dev/fedora/data /data
                

                Obviously you will want to have this mounted on reboot, so add it to /etc/fstab

                nano /etc/fstab
                
                #add this
                /dev/fedora/data /data                    ext4    defaults        1 2
                

                Anyone have a simple "how to do this" guide on /dev/xvdb or /dev/sdb ? (I read some guides on the 'net, thy all seem long & winded)

                Off the top of my head even, let's go!

                pvcreate /dev/xvdb
                vgcreate vgname /dev/xvdb
                lvcreate -n 'lvname' vgname -l 100%FREE
                mkfs.xfs /dev/vgname/lvname
                mount /dev/vgname/lvname /mountpoint
                

                If you add an xfs volume to fstab, it's recommended to make the last two options (dump and fsck) zero. Yeah, xfs can really speed up boot times if you're switching from another file system that needs to run an fsck at boot.

                https://mangolassi.it/topic/11302/travis-hershberger-linux-lvm-storage

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                  FATeknollogee
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                  @travisdh1 Thx, will check out your video.

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                    black3dynamite @StrongBad
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                    @StrongBad said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                    Why ext4 as a default? Feels like they are moving backwards there. They made the move to XFS from ext4 already.

                    Fedora Server uses EXT4 (/boot) and XFS (/root). Fedora Workstation uses EXT4.

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                      black3dynamite @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch

                      guest-agents installs packages of open-vm-tools and qemu-guest-agent.

                      Typing this command will so those packages:
                      dnf groupinfo "guest-agents"

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                        JaredBusch @black3dynamite
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                        @black3dynamite said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                        @JaredBusch

                        guest-agents installs packages of open-vm-tools and qemu-guest-agent.

                        Typing this command will so those packages:
                        dnf groupinfo "guest-agents"

                        yeah finally back to this. so yup, no Hyper-v agents. Fixed that. Let's see what Hyper-V thinks of it.

                        [root@jrd-nc ~]# dnf -y install hyperv-daemons
                        Last metadata expiration check: 2:26:36 ago on Fri Apr 28 09:18:21 2017.
                        Dependencies resolved.
                        ===============================================================================================================
                         Package                          Arch             Version                             Repository         Size
                        ===============================================================================================================
                        Installing:
                         hyperv-daemons                   x86_64           0-0.17.20170105git.fc25             updates           8.7 k
                         hyperv-daemons-license           noarch           0-0.17.20170105git.fc25             updates            16 k
                         hypervfcopyd                     x86_64           0-0.17.20170105git.fc25             updates            15 k
                         hypervkvpd                       x86_64           0-0.17.20170105git.fc25             updates            23 k
                         hypervvssd                       x86_64           0-0.17.20170105git.fc25             updates            15 k
                        
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                          JaredBusch
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                          Hyper-V still shows degraded, but it now shows the IP address in the console.
                          0_1493399297907_upload-d0dc1ab1-e951-4599-9b3d-79191b511196
                          0_1493399322234_upload-09cbd3d9-b1c3-45ee-b506-7b934d86ed1f

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                            JaredBusch
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                            This is a Fedora 25 VM without the hyperv-daemon

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                            0_1493399401331_upload-605ba1b5-5fd2-4842-a0a7-cbbd5c678254

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                              JaredBusch
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                              first post updated with a note to install hyperv-daemons if running under Hyper-V

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                                FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                Hyper-V still shows degraded, but it now shows the IP address in the console.
                                0_1493399297907_upload-d0dc1ab1-e951-4599-9b3d-79191b511196
                                0_1493399322234_upload-09cbd3d9-b1c3-45ee-b506-7b934d86ed1f

                                I installed 2 "minimal install" vm's on Win Serv 2016 (Fedora 25 & CentOS).
                                On the Fedora vm, I checked the "guest agen" add-on but not on the CentOS.
                                Under Status, they both show ok, I didn't have to add hyperv-daemons

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                                  JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by JaredBusch

                                  @FATeknollogee said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                  @JaredBusch said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                  Hyper-V still shows degraded, but it now shows the IP address in the console.
                                  0_1493399297907_upload-d0dc1ab1-e951-4599-9b3d-79191b511196
                                  0_1493399322234_upload-09cbd3d9-b1c3-45ee-b506-7b934d86ed1f

                                  I installed 2 "minimal install" vm's on Win Serv 2016 (Fedora 25 & CentOS).
                                  On the Fedora vm, I checked the "guest agen" add-on but not on the CentOS.
                                  Under Status, they both show ok, I didn't have to add hyperv-daemons

                                  You mean under heartbeat on the summary tab? Yeah. it always does.
                                  Or you mean on the networkig tab? well there it show ok, but not any IP info until you install the hyper-v daemons and reboot.

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                                    FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch Networking tab. In that case, let me go ahead & install the daemons

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                                      stacksofplates @travisdh1
                                      last edited by stacksofplates

                                      @travisdh1 said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                      @FATeknollogee said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                      @JaredBusch said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                      @FATeknollogee said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                      @JaredBusch Let's say you want to use this VM as a file server.
                                      Is it better to create 2 disks (1 for o/s + 1 for storage) or just one big ass disk?

                                      As this example showed, I had a 127GB disk because I let Hyper-V Server 2016 use its default.

                                      Fedora only took 17GB of it. 2GB for swap and 15GB for root.

                                      The rest is sitting there waiting to be used however you want.

                                      So all you have to do is make the space usable.

                                      #create a logical volume named data
                                      lvcreate -l 100%FREE -n data fedora
                                      
                                      #format it to ext4
                                      mkfs.ext4 /dev/fedora/data
                                      
                                      #make a directory to mount it
                                      mkdir /data
                                      
                                      #mount it
                                      mount /dev/fedora/data /data
                                      

                                      Obviously you will want to have this mounted on reboot, so add it to /etc/fstab

                                      nano /etc/fstab
                                      
                                      #add this
                                      /dev/fedora/data /data                    ext4    defaults        1 2
                                      

                                      Anyone have a simple "how to do this" guide on /dev/xvdb or /dev/sdb ? (I read some guides on the 'net, thy all seem long & winded)

                                      Off the top of my head even, let's go!

                                      pvcreate /dev/xvdb
                                      vgcreate vgname /dev/xvdb
                                      lvcreate -n 'lvname' vgname -l 100%FREE
                                      mkfs.xfs /dev/vgname/lvname
                                      mount /dev/vgname/lvname /mountpoint
                                      

                                      If you add an xfs volume to fstab, it's recommended to make the last two options (dump and fsck) zero. Yeah, xfs can really speed up boot times if you're switching from another file system that needs to run an fsck at boot.

                                      https://mangolassi.it/topic/11302/travis-hershberger-linux-lvm-storage

                                      If you're doing -l 100%FREE it doesn't necessarily matter. But if you are ever going to have more than one volume, I'd do vgcreate -s 1G (or more depending on volume size). 4M chunks become annoying to manage, especially when you can do vgcreate -l 1 vs vgcreate -l $((1024000 / 4096)).

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                                        travisdh1 @stacksofplates
                                        last edited by travisdh1

                                        @stacksofplates said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                        @travisdh1 said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                        @FATeknollogee said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                        @JaredBusch said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                        @FATeknollogee said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                        @JaredBusch Let's say you want to use this VM as a file server.
                                        Is it better to create 2 disks (1 for o/s + 1 for storage) or just one big ass disk?

                                        As this example showed, I had a 127GB disk because I let Hyper-V Server 2016 use its default.

                                        Fedora only took 17GB of it. 2GB for swap and 15GB for root.

                                        The rest is sitting there waiting to be used however you want.

                                        So all you have to do is make the space usable.

                                        #create a logical volume named data
                                        lvcreate -l 100%FREE -n data fedora
                                        
                                        #format it to ext4
                                        mkfs.ext4 /dev/fedora/data
                                        
                                        #make a directory to mount it
                                        mkdir /data
                                        
                                        #mount it
                                        mount /dev/fedora/data /data
                                        

                                        Obviously you will want to have this mounted on reboot, so add it to /etc/fstab

                                        nano /etc/fstab
                                        
                                        #add this
                                        /dev/fedora/data /data                    ext4    defaults        1 2
                                        

                                        Anyone have a simple "how to do this" guide on /dev/xvdb or /dev/sdb ? (I read some guides on the 'net, thy all seem long & winded)

                                        Off the top of my head even, let's go!

                                        pvcreate /dev/xvdb
                                        vgcreate vgname /dev/xvdb
                                        lvcreate -n 'lvname' vgname -l 100%FREE
                                        mkfs.xfs /dev/vgname/lvname
                                        mount /dev/vgname/lvname /mountpoint
                                        

                                        If you add an xfs volume to fstab, it's recommended to make the last two options (dump and fsck) zero. Yeah, xfs can really speed up boot times if you're switching from another file system that needs to run an fsck at boot.

                                        https://mangolassi.it/topic/11302/travis-hershberger-linux-lvm-storage

                                        If you're doing -l 100%FREE it doesn't necessarily matter. But if you are ever going to have more than one volume, I'd do vgcreate -s 1G (or more depending on volume size). 4M chunks become annoying to manage, especially when you can do vgcreate -l 1 vs vgcreate -l $((1024000 / 4096)).

                                        I have to ask, how do the 4M chunks become annoying to manage?

                                        The -l 100%FREE should really be a lower percentage anyway, so you can take a snapshot on the volume when you want to run a backup.

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                                          stacksofplates @travisdh1
                                          last edited by

                                          @travisdh1 said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                          @stacksofplates said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                          @travisdh1 said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                          @FATeknollogee said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                          @JaredBusch said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                          @FATeknollogee said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                          @JaredBusch Let's say you want to use this VM as a file server.
                                          Is it better to create 2 disks (1 for o/s + 1 for storage) or just one big ass disk?

                                          As this example showed, I had a 127GB disk because I let Hyper-V Server 2016 use its default.

                                          Fedora only took 17GB of it. 2GB for swap and 15GB for root.

                                          The rest is sitting there waiting to be used however you want.

                                          So all you have to do is make the space usable.

                                          #create a logical volume named data
                                          lvcreate -l 100%FREE -n data fedora
                                          
                                          #format it to ext4
                                          mkfs.ext4 /dev/fedora/data
                                          
                                          #make a directory to mount it
                                          mkdir /data
                                          
                                          #mount it
                                          mount /dev/fedora/data /data
                                          

                                          Obviously you will want to have this mounted on reboot, so add it to /etc/fstab

                                          nano /etc/fstab
                                          
                                          #add this
                                          /dev/fedora/data /data                    ext4    defaults        1 2
                                          

                                          Anyone have a simple "how to do this" guide on /dev/xvdb or /dev/sdb ? (I read some guides on the 'net, thy all seem long & winded)

                                          Off the top of my head even, let's go!

                                          pvcreate /dev/xvdb
                                          vgcreate vgname /dev/xvdb
                                          lvcreate -n 'lvname' vgname -l 100%FREE
                                          mkfs.xfs /dev/vgname/lvname
                                          mount /dev/vgname/lvname /mountpoint
                                          

                                          If you add an xfs volume to fstab, it's recommended to make the last two options (dump and fsck) zero. Yeah, xfs can really speed up boot times if you're switching from another file system that needs to run an fsck at boot.

                                          https://mangolassi.it/topic/11302/travis-hershberger-linux-lvm-storage

                                          If you're doing -l 100%FREE it doesn't necessarily matter. But if you are ever going to have more than one volume, I'd do vgcreate -s 1G (or more depending on volume size). 4M chunks become annoying to manage, especially when you can do vgcreate -l 1 vs vgcreate -l $((1024000 / 4096)).

                                          I have to ask, how do the 4M chunks become annoying to manage?

                                          The -l 100%FREE should really be a lower percentage anyway, so you can take a snapshot on the volume when you want to run a backup.

                                          You get both performance gains from using larger chunks and you don't need to do math when you grow your volume. If you only grow your volume to what you need at the time, it's much easier to just type the size in GB vs the number of extents / 4M.

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                                            travisdh1 @stacksofplates
                                            last edited by

                                            @stacksofplates said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                            @travisdh1 said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                            @stacksofplates said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                            @travisdh1 said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                            @FATeknollogee said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                            @JaredBusch said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                            @FATeknollogee said in How to Install Fedora 25 Minimal:

                                            @JaredBusch Let's say you want to use this VM as a file server.
                                            Is it better to create 2 disks (1 for o/s + 1 for storage) or just one big ass disk?

                                            As this example showed, I had a 127GB disk because I let Hyper-V Server 2016 use its default.

                                            Fedora only took 17GB of it. 2GB for swap and 15GB for root.

                                            The rest is sitting there waiting to be used however you want.

                                            So all you have to do is make the space usable.

                                            #create a logical volume named data
                                            lvcreate -l 100%FREE -n data fedora
                                            
                                            #format it to ext4
                                            mkfs.ext4 /dev/fedora/data
                                            
                                            #make a directory to mount it
                                            mkdir /data
                                            
                                            #mount it
                                            mount /dev/fedora/data /data
                                            

                                            Obviously you will want to have this mounted on reboot, so add it to /etc/fstab

                                            nano /etc/fstab
                                            
                                            #add this
                                            /dev/fedora/data /data                    ext4    defaults        1 2
                                            

                                            Anyone have a simple "how to do this" guide on /dev/xvdb or /dev/sdb ? (I read some guides on the 'net, thy all seem long & winded)

                                            Off the top of my head even, let's go!

                                            pvcreate /dev/xvdb
                                            vgcreate vgname /dev/xvdb
                                            lvcreate -n 'lvname' vgname -l 100%FREE
                                            mkfs.xfs /dev/vgname/lvname
                                            mount /dev/vgname/lvname /mountpoint
                                            

                                            If you add an xfs volume to fstab, it's recommended to make the last two options (dump and fsck) zero. Yeah, xfs can really speed up boot times if you're switching from another file system that needs to run an fsck at boot.

                                            https://mangolassi.it/topic/11302/travis-hershberger-linux-lvm-storage

                                            If you're doing -l 100%FREE it doesn't necessarily matter. But if you are ever going to have more than one volume, I'd do vgcreate -s 1G (or more depending on volume size). 4M chunks become annoying to manage, especially when you can do vgcreate -l 1 vs vgcreate -l $((1024000 / 4096)).

                                            I have to ask, how do the 4M chunks become annoying to manage?

                                            The -l 100%FREE should really be a lower percentage anyway, so you can take a snapshot on the volume when you want to run a backup.

                                            You get both performance gains from using larger chunks and you don't need to do math when you grow your volume. If you only grow your volume to what you need at the time, it's much easier to just type the size in GB vs the number of extents / 4M.

                                            It's LVM, so it really doesn't care if you tell it the number of extents to use or the size in GB. Two different ways of telling it the same thing. Mix and match to your hearts content.

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