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    • CloudKnightC
      CloudKnight
      last edited by

      I have mine hosted on my dedicated server as a VM with OVH.

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      • guyinpvG
        guyinpv @dafyre
        last edited by

        @dafyre Just because an end user has that kind of bandwidth, doesn't mean any webhost or server provider is going to let one user consume that much just because they can. At any rate, that transfer speed was still really really slow, like measured in Kilobytes per second slow. It doesn't seem right.

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee @guyinpv
          last edited by

          @guyinpv said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

          @dafyre Just because an end user has that kind of bandwidth, doesn't mean any webhost or server provider is going to let one user consume that much just because they can. At any rate, that transfer speed was still really really slow, like measured in Kilobytes per second slow. It doesn't seem right.

          How is that relevant to the issue at hand?
          Is Vultr not considered a webhost/server provider?

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          • guyinpvG
            guyinpv @FATeknollogee
            last edited by

            @FATeknollogee

            Cause it's what others were talking about first? A2 was the slow one, didn't mention VULTR.

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @guyinpv
              last edited by

              @guyinpv Either you did not read the posts or you missed where I compared A2 to Vultr!

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee
                last edited by

                Just tried the upload again......speed wins
                Vultr: 17 seconds
                A2: 8 mins 27 secs

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
                  last edited by JaredBusch

                  @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                  Just tried the upload again......speed wins
                  Vultr: 17 seconds
                  A2: 8 mins 27 secs

                  you have a 150/150 pipe? you will nnever see more than 100 to/from my instance because my colo only gives me 100mbps link.

                  but yeah that A2 speed is screwy slow

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee
                    last edited by

                    Yep, 150/150 FIOS pipe.

                    At my colo, I have 1000/500 pipe.

                    Really surprised at the lack of speed from A2.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee
                      last edited by

                      So, I opened a ticket with A2 support:

                      Me:
                      reference: My internet connection is 150/150

                      I uploaded 2 mp4 files ( 74 & 196 MB)
                      Vultr upload took 10 secs.
                      A2 upload took over 7 mins

                      Downloading just the 196MB file:
                      Vultr: 1 sec
                      A2: 1 min.

                      A few hours later, I tried the upload again:......speed wins
                      Vultr: 17 seconds
                      A2: 8 mins 27 secs

                      Why are these speeds so poor?

                      A2 Support:
                      Thank you for contacting us. I would be happy to answer that question. We are not a file sharing service nor do we allow file sharing websites so our service is not optimized to feed that type of setup. From what I can tell this seems to be what you might be setting up as that is what Next Cloud is for. We do not allow this on our servers / we do not allow File Storage.

                      Please do not setup a file sharing or backup or storage cloud on the server. I apologize for any confusion.

                      Me:
                      Are you serious?
                      Why is NextCloud available to install in the Softaculous catalog? Why not remove it since you claim it is not allowed?

                      A2:
                      Thank you for your reply, I apologize for any confusion this has caused you. We offer our customers a variety of scripting using the Softaculous installer, as with all websites on our network the content of our customers sites must be in keeping with our Terms of Service and Acceptable Use Policy which prohibits :

                      Audio/Video streaming (other than that which is incidental to a site's operation)
                      Very large photo galleries
                      Storage of a large amount of uncompressed or full-size digital images
                      Online file (FTP) serving
                      Distribution of large audio or video content such as MP3 files
                      Online backups (i.e. backup of desktop/laptop computer, files, or anything not directly related to the website)

                      https://www.a2hosting.com/about/policies/terms-of-service

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @FATeknollogee
                        last edited by

                        @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                        So, I opened a ticket with A2 support:

                        Me:
                        reference: My internet connection is 150/150

                        I uploaded 2 mp4 files ( 74 & 196 MB)
                        Vultr upload took 10 secs.
                        A2 upload took over 7 mins

                        Downloading just the 196MB file:
                        Vultr: 1 sec
                        A2: 1 min.

                        A few hours later, I tried the upload again:......speed wins
                        Vultr: 17 seconds
                        A2: 8 mins 27 secs

                        Why are these speeds so poor?

                        A2 Support:
                        Thank you for contacting us. I would be happy to answer that question. We are not a file sharing service nor do we allow file sharing websites so our service is not optimized to feed that type of setup. From what I can tell this seems to be what you might be setting up as that is what Next Cloud is for. We do not allow this on our servers / we do not allow File Storage.

                        Please do not setup a file sharing or backup or storage cloud on the server. I apologize for any confusion.

                        Me:
                        Are you serious?
                        Why is NextCloud available to install in the Softaculous catalog? Why not remove it since you claim it is not allowed?

                        A2:
                        Thank you for your reply, I apologize for any confusion this has caused you. We offer our customers a variety of scripting using the Softaculous installer, as with all websites on our network the content of our customers sites must be in keeping with our Terms of Service and Acceptable Use Policy which prohibits :

                        Audio/Video streaming (other than that which is incidental to a site's operation)
                        Very large photo galleries
                        Storage of a large amount of uncompressed or full-size digital images
                        Online file (FTP) serving
                        Distribution of large audio or video content such as MP3 files
                        Online backups (i.e. backup of desktop/laptop computer, files, or anything not directly related to the website)

                        https://www.a2hosting.com/about/policies/terms-of-service

                        You: Okay, thanks. I'll move all my stuff off of A2 then, and switch to another provider, such as Vultr, where these types of services are allowed.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                          So, I opened a ticket with A2 support:

                          Me:
                          reference: My internet connection is 150/150

                          I uploaded 2 mp4 files ( 74 & 196 MB)
                          Vultr upload took 10 secs.
                          A2 upload took over 7 mins

                          Downloading just the 196MB file:
                          Vultr: 1 sec
                          A2: 1 min.

                          A few hours later, I tried the upload again:......speed wins
                          Vultr: 17 seconds
                          A2: 8 mins 27 secs

                          Why are these speeds so poor?

                          A2 Support:
                          Thank you for contacting us. I would be happy to answer that question. We are not a file sharing service nor do we allow file sharing websites so our service is not optimized to feed that type of setup. From what I can tell this seems to be what you might be setting up as that is what Next Cloud is for. We do not allow this on our servers / we do not allow File Storage.

                          Please do not setup a file sharing or backup or storage cloud on the server. I apologize for any confusion.

                          Me:
                          Are you serious?
                          Why is NextCloud available to install in the Softaculous catalog? Why not remove it since you claim it is not allowed?

                          A2:
                          Thank you for your reply, I apologize for any confusion this has caused you. We offer our customers a variety of scripting using the Softaculous installer, as with all websites on our network the content of our customers sites must be in keeping with our Terms of Service and Acceptable Use Policy which prohibits :

                          Audio/Video streaming (other than that which is incidental to a site's operation)
                          Very large photo galleries
                          Storage of a large amount of uncompressed or full-size digital images
                          Online file (FTP) serving
                          Distribution of large audio or video content such as MP3 files
                          Online backups (i.e. backup of desktop/laptop computer, files, or anything not directly related to the website)

                          https://www.a2hosting.com/about/policies/terms-of-service

                          Holy crap what a load of BS. Add them to the list of "never ever use."

                          Cloudways will have zero issue with that!

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee
                            last edited by

                            As much as I would love to move off A2 and use Cloudways, I've got a few things to consider:

                            1. Domain name hosting
                            2. DNS settings for my different domains
                            3. Email accounts
                            4. No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps
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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                              As much as I would love to move off A2 and use Cloudways, I've got a few things to consider:

                              1. Domain name hosting

                              That should never be tied to any other service. THat's your registrar and should have no technical role whatsoever. We use GoDaddy for this.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                1. DNS settings for my different domains

                                What is the concern there?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by

                                  @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                  1. Email accounts

                                  You hosted email with your web host? You get a facepalm for that one.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                    last edited by

                                    @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                    1. No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps

                                    Sadly, that's a tough one. You either need to build your own (Vultr + cPanel/CWP + Softaculous) or you need a full on web hosting environment like ASO (not ASO, just like that.)

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                      @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                      1. Email accounts

                                      You hosted email with your web host? You get a facepalm for that one.

                                      You don't keep an image handy for facepalm?
                                      alt text

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                        @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                        As much as I would love to move off A2 and use Cloudways, I've got a few things to consider:

                                        1. Domain name hosting

                                        That should never be tied to any other service. THat's your registrar and should have no technical role whatsoever. We use GoDaddy for this.

                                        I use Hover (not A2) as my registrar. I then "manage" (not sure what the correct term is) them at A2

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                                        • FATeknollogeeF
                                          FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                          @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                          1. DNS settings for my different domains

                                          What is the concern there?

                                          Concern is I would need to move this somewhere else

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                                          • FATeknollogeeF
                                            FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                            @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                            1. Email accounts

                                            You hosted email with your web host? You get a facepalm for that one.

                                            No facepalm...I have the critical ones with Office365 & I have a bunch of generic (aka free) with A2

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