Pronunciations of SQL Derived Database Names and Terms
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@JaredBusch said in What is a Database Management System:
@scottalanmiller said in What is a Database Management System:
MySQL is proncounced "My S-Q-L", never "My Sequel." This is a commercial product with an official pronunciation.
Official or not, it has been MySequel to most for a long ass time.
I still don't hear that the majority of the time and only in less technical circles. I never hear it in the enterprise space, from DBAs and only very rarely from UNIX admins. It's mostly in casual "I've heard of that but not used it" circles that I hear it mispronounced. In the SMB I'm sure it gets butchered a lot more often. Especially with one time users that don't touch it outside of casual installations.
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@RojoLoco said in What is a Database Management System:
@JaredBusch said in What is a Database Management System:
@scottalanmiller said in What is a Database Management System:
MySQL is proncounced "My S-Q-L", never "My Sequel." This is a commercial product with an official pronunciation.
Official or not, it has been MySequel to most for a long ass time.
It's always been pronounced "sequel". I've literall;y never heard it any other way, and I would laugh if I did. To hell with "official".
"Always" is pushing it. For many years you would never hear that. It's a relatively recent things that more and more casual users of it have started to make their own pronunciations. If you say "MySequel" you definitely flag yourself as not being familiar with the product. People would recognize you as not being very familiar with it very quickly. Definitely something that in a job interview would raise some eyebrows. In SMB circles where DBAs and UNIX Admins are rare, you can totally get away with it. With people who really manage MySQL instances, it would come across very differently.
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SQL is pronounced "sequel", IDGAF what you put before or after it. Just like SMPTE is pronounced "simptee".
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But even today, it's definitely far less than half of the time that I hear it mispronounced. I'm sure I run in different circles, most people I work with run lots of it and have for a very long time. And in bigger firms we used it in Galera clusters. In those settings, the "Sequel" pronunciation is non-existent.
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@RojoLoco said in What is a Database Management System:
SQL is pronounced "sequel", IDGAF what you put before or after it. Just like SMPTE is pronounced "simptee".
Yes, SQL is always sequel. Just as MySQL is always My S-Q-L.
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@RojoLoco said in What is a Database Management System:
SQL is pronounced "sequel", IDGAF what you put before or after it. Just like SMPTE is pronounced "simptee".
So you pronounce PostgreSQL as "postgresequel?"
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We run all our production systems on "my sequel". Not "miss quell" or f***ing whatever.
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@RojoLoco said in What is a Database Management System:
We run all our production systems on "my sequel". Not "miss quell" or f***ing whatever.
Well as there is no such product....
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@scottalanmiller said in What is a Database Management System:
@RojoLoco said in What is a Database Management System:
SQL is pronounced "sequel", IDGAF what you put before or after it. Just like SMPTE is pronounced "simptee".
So you pronounce PostgreSQL as "postgresequel?"
I don't pronounce that one since it is a crappy acronym.
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@scottalanmiller said in What is a Database Management System:
Quick Note on Pronunciation:
SQL is a language developed by IBM and is pronounced like the English word "sequel." It is, in fact, an abbreviation of that word. It's original name was actually SEQUEL but due to copyright issues, it was changed to SQL.
MS SQL Server is pronounced MS "sequel" Server. Never spell it out.
MySQL is proncounced "My S-Q-L", never "My Sequel." This is a commercial product with an official pronunciation.
PostgreSQL is pronounced "Post - Gres - Q - L". It's a weird name, what can we say.
This strikes me as some total hipster BS.... "well, we're soooo Enterprise that we know the correct pronunciation, you've probably never heard of it, but we look down our noses at you if you don't say it this way.... sounds like you work for some kind of SMB.... pssshhhhhhh."
PostgreSQL = "post grease-quell"? I got really f***ing sick of this type of elitism that tried to change the long accepted pronunciations of audio acronyms. Forgive me if my give-a-fuck isn't activating...
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@JaredBusch said in What is a Database Management System:
@scottalanmiller said in What is a Database Management System:
MySQL is proncounced "My S-Q-L", never "My Sequel." This is a commercial product with an official pronunciation.
Official or not, it has been MySequel to most for a long ass time.
I was thinking the same thing. Is it Data or Data?
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@Dashrender Data...I use both interchangeably
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@RojoLoco said in What is a Database Management System:
@scottalanmiller said in What is a Database Management System:
@RojoLoco said in What is a Database Management System:
SQL is pronounced "sequel", IDGAF what you put before or after it. Just like SMPTE is pronounced "simptee".
So you pronounce PostgreSQL as "postgresequel?"
I don't pronounce that one since it is a crappy acronym.
@RojoLoco said in What is a Database Management System:
@scottalanmiller said in What is a Database Management System:
@RojoLoco said in What is a Database Management System:
SQL is pronounced "sequel", IDGAF what you put before or after it. Just like SMPTE is pronounced "simptee".
So you pronounce PostgreSQL as "postgresequel?"
I don't pronounce that one since it is a crappy acronym.
It's only crappy if you try to pronounce it incorrectly
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@Dashrender said in What is a Database Management System:
@JaredBusch said in What is a Database Management System:
@scottalanmiller said in What is a Database Management System:
MySQL is proncounced "My S-Q-L", never "My Sequel." This is a commercial product with an official pronunciation.
Official or not, it has been MySequel to most for a long ass time.
I was thinking the same thing. Is it Data or Data?
It's not, because it is a proper name.
Or as they say in Star Trek, "One is its name, one is not."
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@scottalanmiller said in What is a Database Management System:
It's only crappy if you try to pronounce it incorrectly
LOL - it's crappy anyway you try to pronounce it.
Post Gres Q L - yeah that just rolls off the tongue. -
@RojoLoco said in What is a Database Management System:
@scottalanmiller said in What is a Database Management System:
Quick Note on Pronunciation:
SQL is a language developed by IBM and is pronounced like the English word "sequel." It is, in fact, an abbreviation of that word. It's original name was actually SEQUEL but due to copyright issues, it was changed to SQL.
MS SQL Server is pronounced MS "sequel" Server. Never spell it out.
MySQL is proncounced "My S-Q-L", never "My Sequel." This is a commercial product with an official pronunciation.
PostgreSQL is pronounced "Post - Gres - Q - L". It's a weird name, what can we say.
This strikes me as some total hipster BS.... "well, we're soooo Enterprise that we know the correct pronunciation....
Except that's how intentionally mispronouncing common terms and names just because the SMB likes to be "wrong to be cool" sounds. It's not hipster to be correct. It's hardly "so enterprise" to know the names of some of the industries biggest products. If anyone is being hipster, it's the new SMB people who made up a new name that they use and try to act cool by intentionally not using the actual names.
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@Dashrender said in What is a Database Management System:
@scottalanmiller said in What is a Database Management System:
It's only crappy if you try to pronounce it incorrectly
LOL - it's crappy anyway you try to pronounce it.
Post Gres Q L - yeah that just rolls off the tongue.It's because it is a joke on the name Ingress which it replaced. It was the "Post Ingress" server.
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is it marry a db or mariadb?
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"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet." -
@RojoLoco said in What is a Database Management System:
PostgreSQL = "post grease-quell"? I got really fing sick of this type of elitism that tried to change the long accepted pronunciations of audio acronyms. Forgive me if my give-a-f isn't activating...
Exactly my feeling. It's extremely elitist to feel that after years or decades of a name being official, commonly known and standard to suddenly introduce new pronunciations and hold to them just for the sake of being "better" than the people who have known the name for a long time. The pronunciations above have been accepted... always. Nothing is being changed. All of the pronunciations were provided by the vendors who created the names when they were created. Any deviation from that is the elitist hipster "doing my own thing just to be better than thou" thing.
You can never call someone elitist for being accurate or just using the name that existed since day one. But saying that that is elitist would be elitist. Accuracy is never elitism. But intentional inaccuracy could be.
And saying that things like My-sequal are standard is pushing it, hard. I'd be shocked to find out that even half of people who use the product say it that way. Maybe they do, but certainly in circles I know, it's unheard of to mispronounce it in that way.
