Solved Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax
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@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
That's actually a reason that I dislike GUIs on all kinds of things from switches and routers to servers or whatever - GUIs encourage people to "mess around" with things that they don't know enough about.
Like re-naming a production server in the middle of the day because they decided it would be fun to use a lord of the rings naming scheme.
That's either a very good but random example or someone has a great story to tell.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
That's actually a reason that I dislike GUIs on all kinds of things from switches and routers to servers or whatever - GUIs encourage people to "mess around" with things that they don't know enough about.
Like re-naming a production server in the middle of the day because they decided it would be fun to use a lord of the rings naming scheme.
Seen that... A colleague many years ago googling "How to rename a DC +force"
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@scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
That's actually a reason that I dislike GUIs on all kinds of things from switches and routers to servers or whatever - GUIs encourage people to "mess around" with things that they don't know enough about.
Like re-naming a production server in the middle of the day because they decided it would be fun to use a lord of the rings naming scheme.
That's either a very good but random example or someone has a great story to tell.
Yes. The leadership of the company thought it would be a good idea.
So one of them logged in and did exactly that.
BOOM. Helpdesk got flooded with calls.
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OK, back to topic. @hobbit666: What's UMMS? Because google leads exactly to our thread here
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He's probably talking about UNMS, Ubiquiti Network Management Solution, https://www.ubnt.com/software/
Manage all of your EdgeMAX
and U Fiber devices.- Centralized devices configuration, backups and mass FW upgrade
- Performance charts with real-time graphs
- Outage notifications and custom alerts
- Map of your network sites and endpoints
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@thwr What he said
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Just played around with https://demo.ubnt.com
It feels a bit... odd. There's too much "magic" going on behind the scenes and I don't like the way they manage VLANs in the UniFi series - just compare this to this. Overall, it feels like someone is holding your hand and doesn't allow you to cross the street at all. Probably OK in most cases, but that's not what I want.
So I'll take a closer look into the Edge line.
BTW: Does anyone know a rough price for an SFP+ transceiver?
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@thwr that is definitely the purpose of the Unifi.
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@thwr said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
BTW: Does anyone know a rough price for an SFP+ transceiver?
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@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@thwr said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
BTW: Does anyone know a rough price for an SFP+ transceiver?
Now that's a good price. Never liked the Cisco "fees".
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@thwr said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
Just played around with https://demo.ubnt.com
It feels a bit... odd. There's too much "magic" going on behind the scenes and I don't like the way they manage VLANs in the UniFi series - just compare this to this. Overall, it feels like someone is holding your hand and doesn't allow you to cross the street at all. Probably OK in most cases, but that's not what I want.
So I'll take a closer look into the Edge line.
BTW: Does anyone know a rough price for an SFP+ transceiver?
Here is the UNMS https://unms-demo.ubnt.com/devices
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@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@thwr said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
Just played around with https://demo.ubnt.com
It feels a bit... odd. There's too much "magic" going on behind the scenes and I don't like the way they manage VLANs in the UniFi series - just compare this to this. Overall, it feels like someone is holding your hand and doesn't allow you to cross the street at all. Probably OK in most cases, but that's not what I want.
So I'll take a closer look into the Edge line.
BTW: Does anyone know a rough price for an SFP+ transceiver?
Here is the UNMS https://unms-demo.ubnt.com/devices
Now that's a whole different story. Thanks for the link.
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@thwr said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@thwr said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
Just played around with https://demo.ubnt.com
It feels a bit... odd. There's too much "magic" going on behind the scenes and I don't like the way they manage VLANs in the UniFi series - just compare this to this. Overall, it feels like someone is holding your hand and doesn't allow you to cross the street at all. Probably OK in most cases, but that's not what I want.
So I'll take a closer look into the Edge line.
BTW: Does anyone know a rough price for an SFP+ transceiver?
Here is the UNMS https://unms-demo.ubnt.com/devices
Now that's a whole different story. Thanks for the link.
Just don't tell @Breffni-Potter because it is all private.
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@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@thwr said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@thwr said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
Just played around with https://demo.ubnt.com
It feels a bit... odd. There's too much "magic" going on behind the scenes and I don't like the way they manage VLANs in the UniFi series - just compare this to this. Overall, it feels like someone is holding your hand and doesn't allow you to cross the street at all. Probably OK in most cases, but that's not what I want.
So I'll take a closer look into the Edge line.
BTW: Does anyone know a rough price for an SFP+ transceiver?
Here is the UNMS https://unms-demo.ubnt.com/devices
Now that's a whole different story. Thanks for the link.
Just don't tell @Breffni-Potter because it is all private.
So we should better not tag @Breffni-Potter ?
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@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@thwr said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
Just played around with https://demo.ubnt.com
It feels a bit... odd. There's too much "magic" going on behind the scenes and I don't like the way they manage VLANs in the UniFi series - just compare this to this. Overall, it feels like someone is holding your hand and doesn't allow you to cross the street at all. Probably OK in most cases, but that's not what I want.
So I'll take a closer look into the Edge line.
BTW: Does anyone know a rough price for an SFP+ transceiver?
Here is the UNMS https://unms-demo.ubnt.com/devices
Man that's really cool.
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Mh, is the EdgeSwitch able to run a VPN tunnel on its own? I need to connect a "remote" office to my server room. The office is in the 3rd floor, my server room in the basement and I need to run through a "public" patch room (primary cabling junction for the building).
Like:
3rd floor "remote" office -> fiber -> public patch room -> fiber -> my Serverroom (basement) -> Office -
@thwr said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
Mh, is the EdgeSwitch able to run a VPN tunnel on its own? I need to connect a "remote" office to my server room. The office is in the 3rd floor, my server room in the basement and I need to run through a "public" patch room (primary cabling junction for the building).
Like:
3rd floor "remote" office -> fiber -> public patch room -> fiber -> my Serverroom (basement) -> OfficeI doubt it has the ability to configure a VPN that seems like an edge device is needed for that.
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@coliver said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@thwr said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
Mh, is the EdgeSwitch able to run a VPN tunnel on its own? I need to connect a "remote" office to my server room. The office is in the 3rd floor, my server room in the basement and I need to run through a "public" patch room (primary cabling junction for the building).
Like:
3rd floor "remote" office -> fiber -> public patch room -> fiber -> my Serverroom (basement) -> OfficeI doubt it has the ability to configure a VPN that seems like an edge device is needed for that.
It does not. That would be the router's job.
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@coliver said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@thwr said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
Mh, is the EdgeSwitch able to run a VPN tunnel on its own? I need to connect a "remote" office to my server room. The office is in the 3rd floor, my server room in the basement and I need to run through a "public" patch room (primary cabling junction for the building).
Like:
3rd floor "remote" office -> fiber -> public patch room -> fiber -> my Serverroom (basement) -> OfficeI doubt it has the ability to configure a VPN that seems like an edge device is needed for that.
And we're back at the point where I could need an edge router with a 10G port
But the remote office could just get a 1G link, they don't need 10G up there -
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@coliver said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
@thwr said in Ubiquiti switches: UniFi vs EdgeMax:
Mh, is the EdgeSwitch able to run a VPN tunnel on its own? I need to connect a "remote" office to my server room. The office is in the 3rd floor, my server room in the basement and I need to run through a "public" patch room (primary cabling junction for the building).
Like:
3rd floor "remote" office -> fiber -> public patch room -> fiber -> my Serverroom (basement) -> OfficeI doubt it has the ability to configure a VPN that seems like an edge device is needed for that.
It does not. That would be the router's job.
Yeah, could have been. Probably the same software behind the scenes etc.
