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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Carnival Boy
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      @Carnival-Boy said:

      I don't know how he'll create new Outlook profiles on a Friday night. I'd be interested to know how I should have done it.

      Spin the passwords.

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      • C
        Carnival Boy
        last edited by

        You mean reset them to something and logon using that new password? Yeah, I could have done, but I'm not sure what benefit that would have. I'm still logging on as them with all the security concerns that that implies.

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410
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          Very good info guys and as Scott says, good "knowledge base" info.

          Let me digress for a second...because I may end up needing help here...

          Our domain name is registered with Network Solutions and is currently pointed to our POP3 provider who also hosts our webpage. The webpage actually has a pointer to our WIX page, which we have set in the POP3 providers control panel. So when the POP3 provider shuts down all of our services, do I simply point the domain to the Wix page or will this be a little more complicated with the MX records and such? Thanks...

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            Sounds like you need to migrate your entire DNS to someone new since you're leaving the POP3 service.

            @scottalanmiller mentioned some provider a week or so ago that offers free DNS and free mild website cacheing services (they offer a paid service that really 'protects and speeds up' your website). Maybe he'll remind us by posting 😉

            You'll need to create all of the current records you have on the POP3's DNS server on the new DNS providers servers. once you create all of these records, go to Network Solutions and point your SOA to the new DNS provider.

            As for making sure people are able to make it to your website, you'll need to change your www records and any others that have to do with your website to your WIX IP address (hopefully they are doing header reading and attach the traffic to the correct website - that is assuming you have a shared IP at your hosting company, WIX)

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch a few minor changes.

              Why do you like leaving the old Outlook profile in place instead of creating a new one? Also, why keep delivering messages that are coming in from POP3 to the PST until you kill it? Trying to understand the thought process.

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              • garak0410G
                garak0410 @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                Sounds like you need to migrate your entire DNS to someone new since you're leaving the POP3 service.

                At the domain owner website (Network Solutions), I have our 4 domain names we own listed (we only really use one.)...I can go into MANAGE and I have three options with one being domain name server (DNS) and another being Advanced DNS services...under advanced, it says

                Warning, Service Interruption Will Occur!
                In order to use Advanced DNS Manager, your Name Servers must be moved to Network Solutions managed name servers.
                Please Note: When you Move Name Servers to Network Solutions, your Existing Name Servers will no longer be used. As a result, Web sites and E-mail from other providers will be lost.

                So, this is where I need to go when you said above, correct?

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  You can go there if you want to use Network Solutions as your DNS provider.

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                  • garak0410G
                    garak0410 @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    You can go there if you want to use Network Solutions as your DNS provider.

                    That's what I plan to do to keep it net and consistent for now...now the timing of it all...I still think I can do the MX records before I do this DNS move, right?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      Sure, you can do the records change in nearly any order you want, as long as your old POP3 provider keeps your records alive on their system.

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                      • ?
                        A Former User
                        last edited by

                        i'd create new profiles with the exchange plan and just import the pst's. you can also just use the @domain.onmicrosoft.com address for the migration and setup forwarders at your pop provider for the time being.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender
                          Setting up a new outlook profile is a waste of time in a staged migration. That is why I just add an exchange account to the current profile.
                          You will be receiving mail at the pop address until the MX records are transferred and propagated. If you make a new profile and only import the pst, how are you supposed to keep checking the pop3 otherwise.

                          If you forward the pop3 at the host as @Hubtech suggested, then that would change that and make it feasible.

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                          • ?
                            A Former User @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said:

                            @Dashrender
                            Setting up a new outlook profile is a waste of time in a staged migration. That is why I just add an exchange account to the current profile.
                            You will be receiving mail at the pop address until the MX records are transferred and propagated. If you make a new profile and only import the pst, how are you supposed to keep checking the pop3 otherwise.

                            If you forward the pop3 at the host as @Hubtech suggested, then that would change that and make it feasible.

                            yep. and then all you've gotta do is make the final mx changes to flow ALL mail to exchange and finito!

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said:

                              @Dashrender
                              Setting up a new outlook profile is a waste of time in a staged migration. That is why I just add an exchange account to the current profile.
                              You will be receiving mail at the pop address until the MX records are transferred and propagated. If you make a new profile and only import the pst, how are you supposed to keep checking the pop3 otherwise.

                              If you forward the pop3 at the host as @Hubtech suggested, then that would change that and make it feasible.

                              In both our situations you have to visit the workstations twice. Though in my setup all email from the time you touch the pc the first time starts arriving in your O365 account. One of my steps when making the new profile is to have the Outlook client connect to the POP3 account and through the Outlook client upload it to your O365 account.

                              How do POP3 servers handle forwarding email to another server? would the mail split into the appropriate mailboxes?

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                              • ?
                                A Former User @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                @Dashrender
                                Setting up a new outlook profile is a waste of time in a staged migration. That is why I just add an exchange account to the current profile.
                                You will be receiving mail at the pop address until the MX records are transferred and propagated. If you make a new profile and only import the pst, how are you supposed to keep checking the pop3 otherwise.

                                If you forward the pop3 at the host as @Hubtech suggested, then that would change that and make it feasible.

                                In both our situations you have to visit the workstations twice. Though in my setup all email from the time you touch the pc the first time starts arriving in your O365 account. One of my steps when making the new profile is to have the Outlook client connect to the POP3 account and through the Outlook client upload it to your O365 account.

                                How do POP3 servers handle forwarding email to another server? would the mail split into the appropriate mailboxes?

                                It forwards the mail to whatever address you push it to. you'd have to set a forwarder for each individual account. lik-a-dis
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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @A Former User
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                                  @Hubtech said:

                                  It forwards the mail to whatever address you push it to. you'd have to set a forwarder for each individual account. lik-a-dis
                                  Capture.PNG

                                  Does that add to the header? What happens when you reply to those types of emails?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    You can go there if you want to use Network Solutions as your DNS provider.

                                    I recommend keeping your Registrar, DNS Host and Web Host as three discrete entities. Seen way too many companies get screwed by rolling all of their "checks and balances" into one company.

                                    Your Registrar should be managed by the CEO or board, not IT. DNS should be IT only, no access by the business. This is important separation of duties even for an SMB.

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                                    • garak0410G
                                      garak0410
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                                      This thread will be my only "homework" during my vacation...will come back on the 18th ready to start working on this... 🙂

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller what was the name of the DNS provider you mentioned recently?
                                        I can't find the thread

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                                        • garak0410G
                                          garak0410 @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller what was the name of the DNS provider you mentioned recently?
                                          I can't find the thread

                                          Network Solutions

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @garak0410
                                            last edited by

                                            @garak0410 said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @scottalanmiller what was the name of the DNS provider you mentioned recently?
                                            I can't find the thread

                                            Network Solutions

                                            Not yours - @scottalanmiller suggested one to me a few weeks ago. As you saw in his post a little while ago, he's against having Registrar, DNS and Web hosting done by the same company.

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