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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

      @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

      @scottalanmiller at one point you had mentioned SUSE (openSUSE, I presume) as a suggestion here.

      Why was that?

      openSuse is what I use, especially Leap. Because I know it well and it has some extensive storage features. But unless you are going to use those features, you don't want to start exploring new distros that require different tools and knowledge unless there is specific need for it.

      But if a user (like myself, for this kind of thing) has no prior knowledge of Centos?

      I mean at this point, I know Ubuntu pretty well, too.

      Everything but CentOS.

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      • RomoR
        Romo
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        If no commercial support is needed, choosing between:
        CentOS, OpenSuse, Ubuntu, Debian

        Should be based in which one you are most comfortable and have more experience with.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

          @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

          @scottalanmiller at one point you had mentioned SUSE (openSUSE, I presume) as a suggestion here.

          Why was that?

          openSuse is what I use, especially Leap. Because I know it well and it has some extensive storage features. But unless you are going to use those features, you don't want to start exploring new distros that require different tools and knowledge unless there is specific need for it.

          But if a user (like myself, for this kind of thing) has no prior knowledge of Centos?

          I mean at this point, I know Ubuntu pretty well, too.

          Everything but CentOS.

          Well, you should not have been doing anything else until you were an expert on CentOS 😉 CentOS is far and away the most appropriate for someone with less experience.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
            last edited by

            I guess two branches of this could be...

            1. If you are looking for future Linux work (AKA, what would benefit a new user most.)

            2. If you are just looking for the best way to go starting from scratch.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

              @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

              @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

              @scottalanmiller at one point you had mentioned SUSE (openSUSE, I presume) as a suggestion here.

              Why was that?

              openSuse is what I use, especially Leap. Because I know it well and it has some extensive storage features. But unless you are going to use those features, you don't want to start exploring new distros that require different tools and knowledge unless there is specific need for it.

              But if a user (like myself, for this kind of thing) has no prior knowledge of Centos?

              I mean at this point, I know Ubuntu pretty well, too.

              Everything but CentOS.

              Well, you should not have been doing anything else until you were an expert on CentOS 😉 CentOS is far and away the most appropriate for someone with less experience.

              Hey I just follow installation orders. 🙂

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                @scottalanmiller at one point you had mentioned SUSE (openSUSE, I presume) as a suggestion here.

                Why was that?

                openSuse is what I use, especially Leap. Because I know it well and it has some extensive storage features. But unless you are going to use those features, you don't want to start exploring new distros that require different tools and knowledge unless there is specific need for it.

                But if a user (like myself, for this kind of thing) has no prior knowledge of Centos?

                I mean at this point, I know Ubuntu pretty well, too.

                Everything but CentOS.

                Well, you should not have been doing anything else until you were an expert on CentOS 😉 CentOS is far and away the most appropriate for someone with less experience.

                Why is that the case?

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                  @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                  @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                  @scottalanmiller at one point you had mentioned SUSE (openSUSE, I presume) as a suggestion here.

                  Why was that?

                  openSuse is what I use, especially Leap. Because I know it well and it has some extensive storage features. But unless you are going to use those features, you don't want to start exploring new distros that require different tools and knowledge unless there is specific need for it.

                  But if a user (like myself, for this kind of thing) has no prior knowledge of Centos?

                  I mean at this point, I know Ubuntu pretty well, too.

                  Everything but CentOS.

                  Well, you should not have been doing anything else until you were an expert on CentOS 😉 CentOS is far and away the most appropriate for someone with less experience.

                  So to answer my other sub-question here. If someone came to you and said "I want to learn Linux" ... after you explained why the question is stated wrong (haha), you'd point them towards CentOS?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                    I guess two branches of this could be...

                    1. If you are looking for future Linux work (AKA, what would benefit a new user most.)

                    2. If you are just looking for the best way to go starting from scratch.

                    In both cases, CentOS is what makes the most sense.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      I was looking forward to using LEAP. It has a cute logo.

                      🙂

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                        @wirestyle22 said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                        @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                        @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                        @scottalanmiller at one point you had mentioned SUSE (openSUSE, I presume) as a suggestion here.

                        Why was that?

                        openSuse is what I use, especially Leap. Because I know it well and it has some extensive storage features. But unless you are going to use those features, you don't want to start exploring new distros that require different tools and knowledge unless there is specific need for it.

                        But if a user (like myself, for this kind of thing) has no prior knowledge of Centos?

                        I mean at this point, I know Ubuntu pretty well, too.

                        Everything but CentOS.

                        Well, you should not have been doing anything else until you were an expert on CentOS 😉 CentOS is far and away the most appropriate for someone with less experience.

                        Why is that the case?

                        Because CentOS is the appropriate Linux for non-experts. It's the easiest to use, best documented, has the best support, is the most stable and secure, has the fewest caveats, is the least confusing, does not do marketing tricks like the Ubuntu LTS thing to confuse users, has a good community of people who understand the product, has the best application support, etc. It requires the least skill to use properly, and lets you do the most with it and provides for the best career options once you learn it.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                          @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                          @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                          @scottalanmiller at one point you had mentioned SUSE (openSUSE, I presume) as a suggestion here.

                          Why was that?

                          openSuse is what I use, especially Leap. Because I know it well and it has some extensive storage features. But unless you are going to use those features, you don't want to start exploring new distros that require different tools and knowledge unless there is specific need for it.

                          But if a user (like myself, for this kind of thing) has no prior knowledge of Centos?

                          I mean at this point, I know Ubuntu pretty well, too.

                          Everything but CentOS.

                          Well, you should not have been doing anything else until you were an expert on CentOS 😉 CentOS is far and away the most appropriate for someone with less experience.

                          So to answer my other sub-question here. If someone came to you and said "I want to learn Linux" ... after you explained why the question is stated wrong (haha), you'd point them towards CentOS?

                          Always. And I do in a thread at least once a week. And my Linux course explains that as well as to why CentOS is used for the course.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                            I was looking forward to using LEAP. It has a cute logo.

                            🙂

                            OpenSuse is great and there is nothing wrong with it. If your goal is to learn OpenSuse, not Linux in general, then there you go. But it's harder to get started with and has a fraction of the resources that CentOS does. Few cloud providers even provide it, which is sad and shocking but it is what it is.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said

                              Always. And I do in a thread at least once a week. And my Linux course explains that as well as to why CentOS is used for the course.

                              Well, you do give pros and cons for all.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                CentOS is also the Dom0 of XenServer. So you get great overlap there for people using that.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                                  CentOS is also the Dom0 of XenServer. So you get great overlap there for people using that.

                                  Those crazy f'ers.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller That makes perfect sense. Thanks!

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                                      CentOS is also the Dom0 of XenServer. So you get great overlap there for people using that.

                                      Those crazy f'ers.

                                      And that comment just reminded me that I haven't installed Dell's OpenManage on the rebuilt server yet. Gotta go do that.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @travisdh1
                                        last edited by

                                        @travisdh1 said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                                        @BRRABill said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                                        CentOS is also the Dom0 of XenServer. So you get great overlap there for people using that.

                                        Those crazy f'ers.

                                        And that comment just reminded me that I haven't installed Dell's OpenManage on the rebuilt server yet. Gotta go do that.

                                        Oooh, me too.

                                        And also get my UPS working.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by Dashrender

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                                          CentOS. Because there is no compelling reason to look at anything else and by default I always start there - it's the best known, most stable, best supported. So unless you have a specific reason to look elsewhere, that's what you use IMHO.

                                          I don't feel that this is a real answer to Bill's question. Does it answer it, sure, but doesn't explain why.

                                          What makes CentOS better than Ubuntu, RHEL, Debian (not Linux I know, but still), etc?

                                          Now I'm late to the conversation and the additional reasons might be posted.. I just still wanted to post this. Scott, more explanation is really needed for those who don't know the major players in the Linux community and what makes one better at one thing versus the next.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Linux File Server. Which One Would You Pick?:

                                            CentOS. Because there is no compelling reason to look at anything else and by default I always start there - it's the best known, most stable, best supported. So unless you have a specific reason to look elsewhere, that's what you use IMHO.

                                            I don't feel that this is a real answer to Bill's question. Does it answer it, sure, but doesn't explain why.

                                            What makes CentOS better than Ubuntu, RHEL, Debian (not Linux I know, but still), etc?

                                            I think he did answer it...

                                            "Because CentOS is the appropriate Linux for non-experts. It's the easiest to use, best documented, has the best support, is the most stable and secure, has the fewest caveats, is the least confusing, does not do marketing tricks like the Ubuntu LTS thing to confuse users, has a good community of people who understand the product, has the best application support, etc. It requires the least skill to use properly, and lets you do the most with it and provides for the best career options once you learn it."

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