New Dell gaming laptop
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I'm wondering what everyone thinks about this laptop. Worth it? My parents are in the market for a gaming laptop now that they are retired (yup I come from awesome stock, lol).
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My first question anytime this is brought up: Is it absolutely essential that it's a laptop?
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The article doesn't really list the specifications of the laptop besides the generation of the CPU and that it will have an Nvidia GPU.
The GPU could be baked into the CPU or separate... and without knowing that (and other specifications) it's really hard to provide a reliable answer.
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This article has more details:
http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.
With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.
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For a lot of gaming stuff, like Steam features, you need an NVidia GTX card, not just an NVidia one. The spec of the GPU is pretty important.
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@wirestyle22 said in New Dell gaming laptop:
My first question anytime this is brought up: Is it absolutely essential that it's a laptop?
Portability is a big thing for me (even though I don't move much). But being able to pick up and go to a family members for a week (and still game) is a big boost.
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@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
This article has more details:
http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.
With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.
You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.
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@DustinB3403 said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@wirestyle22 said in New Dell gaming laptop:
My first question anytime this is brought up: Is it absolutely essential that it's a laptop?
Portability is a big thing for me (even though I don't move much). But being able to pick up and go to a family members for a week (and still game) is a big boost.
Yeah, in that sort of a case It's absolutely necessary. I try to stay away from laptops for gaming. Heat issues, battery problems, price/performance, etc. Portability is almost never necessary for me.
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@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
This article has more details:
http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.
With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.
You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.
My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.
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@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
This article has more details:
http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.
With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.
You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.
My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.
Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.
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@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
This article has more details:
http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.
With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.
You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.
My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.
Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.
Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.
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@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
This article has more details:
http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.
With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.
You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.
My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.
Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.
Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.
A bigger issue will likely be scaling. Lots of games barf if you use Windows scaling to make things big enough to see. And especially games that they like.
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They are living between NY and TX now that they are retired, and also traveling extensively, so that's why it needs to be a laptop.
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I'd look at this instead. We've had such good luck with them.
https://www.amazon.com/Asus-Rog-15-6-Inch-GeForce-Windows/dp/B01LZQEZQE/
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@scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
This article has more details:
http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.
With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.
You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.
My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.
Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.
Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.
A bigger issue will likely be scaling. Lots of games barf if you use Windows scaling to make things big enough to see. And especially games that they like.
As long as you're going in multiples of the resolution it won't be to bad. So if they set everything to 1080p instead of 4k it shouldn't look horrible.
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@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
This article has more details:
http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.
With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.
You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.
My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.
Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.
Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.
A bigger issue will likely be scaling. Lots of games barf if you use Windows scaling to make things big enough to see. And especially games that they like.
As long as you're going in multiples of the resolution it won't be to bad. So if they set everything to 1080p instead of 4k it shouldn't look horrible.
I mean that the games actually won't run.
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@scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
This article has more details:
http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.
With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.
You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.
My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.
Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.
Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.
A bigger issue will likely be scaling. Lots of games barf if you use Windows scaling to make things big enough to see. And especially games that they like.
As long as you're going in multiples of the resolution it won't be to bad. So if they set everything to 1080p instead of 4k it shouldn't look horrible.
I mean that the games actually won't run.
True, although GOG has done a good job of testing for the most part, for older games. Still there are some that just won't look good or run at larger resolutions. You could set the monitor itself to a lower resolution instead of upscaling the game though, no?
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@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
This article has more details:
http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.
With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.
You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.
My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.
Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.
Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.
A bigger issue will likely be scaling. Lots of games barf if you use Windows scaling to make things big enough to see. And especially games that they like.
As long as you're going in multiples of the resolution it won't be to bad. So if they set everything to 1080p instead of 4k it shouldn't look horrible.
I mean that the games actually won't run.
True, although GOG has done a good job of testing for the most part, for older games. Still there are some that just won't look good or run at larger resolutions. You could set the monitor itself to a lower resolution instead of upscaling the game though, no?
There are entire categories of casual games that don't even function on scaled resolutions. The underlying engines won't accommodate it. Hidden object games are a big one.
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@scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@scottalanmiller said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Reid-Cooper said in New Dell gaming laptop:
@Nic said in New Dell gaming laptop:
This article has more details:
http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/03/dell-launches-4-inspiron-and-alienware-gaming-laptops-with-intel-kaby-lake-processors/GTX 1050 and i5 Kaby Lake.
With a 4k display, that graphics card isn't going to be able to do very high settings at 4k. 4GB also seems a little skimpy. Still, for $800 it isn't bad. Like @wirestyle22 said, do they need a laptop? Otherwise you could get better value with a Steam machine type box and hook it up to their existing TV.
You wrote this while I was typing. So that's a decent GTX card. But 4K display seems wrong.
My guess is either it's mainly for viewing 4k video content (although at 15inches, who cares?) or simply the 4k screens are a cheaper price point due to manufacturing scaling than a 1080p screen. Or just marketing.
Could just set games to quarter resolution, but that is annoying.
Yeah either that or just turn down/off anti-aliasing and drop a few other settings down depending on the game. I'm guessing @Dominica's parents probably are at that age where it frankly doesn't matter due to their age and eyesight.
A bigger issue will likely be scaling. Lots of games barf if you use Windows scaling to make things big enough to see. And especially games that they like.
As long as you're going in multiples of the resolution it won't be to bad. So if they set everything to 1080p instead of 4k it shouldn't look horrible.
I mean that the games actually won't run.
True, although GOG has done a good job of testing for the most part, for older games. Still there are some that just won't look good or run at larger resolutions. You could set the monitor itself to a lower resolution instead of upscaling the game though, no?
There are entire categories of casual games that don't even function on scaled resolutions. The underlying engines won't accommodate it. Hidden object games are a big one.
Yeah I never play those so I guess I'm missing out on that special area of troubleshooting