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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
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      Chatting with AT&T tech support about how they messed up my cellular bill.

      Pray for me.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        Chatting with AT&T tech support about how they messed up my cellular bill.

        Pray for me.

        Just for calling expect a $35 to $75 "service fee"

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        • mlnewsM
          mlnews @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          Chatting with AT&T tech support about how they messed up my cellular bill.

          Pray for me.

          Just for calling existing expect a $35 to $75 "service fee"

          FTFY

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Where has @wirestyle22 gotten to? Haven't seen him in a bit.

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse
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              TYPING a letter on this:

              http://www.atticpaper.com/prodimages/050909/underwood_3down.jpg

              The Serial number leads me to it's date of manufacture to be about 1923 - $3 then would be be quite a bit then... and after nearly 100 years, still works nicely.

              Sorting out the layout of a battery unit,.. a single 4s (4 batteries in series) moved to a 4s4p (4 series/4 parallel) and without a BMS (battery monitoring system). Parts list for the build is growing, hoping the layout helps prevent missing a part or two.

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              • EddieJenningsE
                EddieJennings @thwr
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                @thwr That's what I figured.

                The second and third paragraphs of this article highlight what I thought was strange: https://blog.nexcess.net/2016/08/03/how-can-developers-make-a-living-from-gpl-plugins/

                The idea that under the GPL it seems like it's allowed to take someone's work and distribute it as your own (either for free or for a fee). While that's clearly an ethical problem, it doesn't seem to be disallowed.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @EddieJennings
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                  @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @thwr That's what I figured.

                  The second and third paragraphs of this article highlight what I thought was strange: https://blog.nexcess.net/2016/08/03/how-can-developers-make-a-living-from-gpl-plugins/

                  The idea that under the GPL it seems like it's allowed to take someone's work and distribute it as your own (either for free or for a fee). While that's clearly an ethical problem, it doesn't seem to be disallowed.

                  The question to me comes down to - what are you paying for? As has been discussed here before, the typical claim for cost is the distribution expense, not the software on the media.

                  As for claiming the work as your own, I didn't read it, so i don't know if that's allowable or not. It might boil down to a wording game.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                    @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @thwr That's what I figured.

                    The second and third paragraphs of this article highlight what I thought was strange: https://blog.nexcess.net/2016/08/03/how-can-developers-make-a-living-from-gpl-plugins/

                    The idea that under the GPL it seems like it's allowed to take someone's work and distribute it as your own (either for free or for a fee). While that's clearly an ethical problem, it doesn't seem to be disallowed.

                    Of course you can. The GPL has, from day one, guaranteed that you can distribute the work and charge for it. That was explicitly built into the license as a requirement.

                    It's not an ethical problem in the slightest. It's not disallowed... it's a protected right. The entire GPL ecosystem is built on this.

                    You cannot CALL It your own, however. You must maintain the licensing and acknowledgements of the original. You cannot lie about it.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      As for claiming the work as your own, I didn't read it, so i don't know if that's allowable or not. It might boil down to a wording game.

                      You can't claim the work as your own. But you can claim the packaging as your own. RHEL is made by Red Hat, but they can't claim to have made the Linux kernel.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        The question to me comes down to - what are you paying for? As has been discussed here before, the typical claim for cost is the distribution expense, not the software on the media.

                        Doesn't matter. They can charge for whatever piece that they want, the GPL protects that right.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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                          @Minion-Queen said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          Had to go put our older dog to sleep this morning. So today is a sucky Monday 😞

                          Sorry, just saw this 😞

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
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                            Pumpkin carving time
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                            • thwrT
                              thwr @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @thwr That's what I figured.

                              The second and third paragraphs of this article highlight what I thought was strange: https://blog.nexcess.net/2016/08/03/how-can-developers-make-a-living-from-gpl-plugins/

                              The idea that under the GPL it seems like it's allowed to take someone's work and distribute it as your own (either for free or for a fee). While that's clearly an ethical problem, it doesn't seem to be disallowed.

                              Of course you can. The GPL has, from day one, guaranteed that you can distribute the work and charge for it. That was explicitly built into the license as a requirement.

                              It's not an ethical problem in the slightest. It's not disallowed... it's a protected right. The entire GPL ecosystem is built on this.

                              You cannot CALL It your own, however. You must maintain the licensing and acknowledgements of the original. You cannot lie about it.

                              But you can fork a project and call that fork your own. AFAIK you just need to reference the original project. Or is such a reference just good practice?

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                              • hobbit666H
                                hobbit666
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                                Thought I would start with this job:-
                                Sort out backups from our RN3220 to and NAS in another building

                                While i'm cloning a PC for bagging.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @thwr
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                                  @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @thwr That's what I figured.

                                  The second and third paragraphs of this article highlight what I thought was strange: https://blog.nexcess.net/2016/08/03/how-can-developers-make-a-living-from-gpl-plugins/

                                  The idea that under the GPL it seems like it's allowed to take someone's work and distribute it as your own (either for free or for a fee). While that's clearly an ethical problem, it doesn't seem to be disallowed.

                                  Of course you can. The GPL has, from day one, guaranteed that you can distribute the work and charge for it. That was explicitly built into the license as a requirement.

                                  It's not an ethical problem in the slightest. It's not disallowed... it's a protected right. The entire GPL ecosystem is built on this.

                                  You cannot CALL It your own, however. You must maintain the licensing and acknowledgements of the original. You cannot lie about it.

                                  But you can fork a project and call that fork your own. AFAIK you just need to reference the original project. Or is such a reference just good practice?

                                  It's not just good practice it is required under the GPL licensing.

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                                  • hobbit666H
                                    hobbit666
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                                    Just replaced a print in a Epson T88V receipt printer.
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                                    We normally send them off and it costs £100 parts and labour, just cost me 10 minutes and £37

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre
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                                      Nothing says "good morning" like a message from someone telling me that I've won $150k from a non-existent 6 initial government agency.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Good morning Mangoes.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @thwr
                                          last edited by

                                          @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @thwr That's what I figured.

                                          The second and third paragraphs of this article highlight what I thought was strange: https://blog.nexcess.net/2016/08/03/how-can-developers-make-a-living-from-gpl-plugins/

                                          The idea that under the GPL it seems like it's allowed to take someone's work and distribute it as your own (either for free or for a fee). While that's clearly an ethical problem, it doesn't seem to be disallowed.

                                          Of course you can. The GPL has, from day one, guaranteed that you can distribute the work and charge for it. That was explicitly built into the license as a requirement.

                                          It's not an ethical problem in the slightest. It's not disallowed... it's a protected right. The entire GPL ecosystem is built on this.

                                          You cannot CALL It your own, however. You must maintain the licensing and acknowledgements of the original. You cannot lie about it.

                                          But you can fork a project and call that fork your own. AFAIK you just need to reference the original project. Or is such a reference just good practice?

                                          Or course, all critical components of the GPL. That's what makes it so powerful. Like how NextCloud was able to protect the ownCloud code by forking it.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @thwr
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                                            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            But you can fork a project and call that fork your own. AFAIK you just need to reference the original project. Or is such a reference just good practice?

                                            You have to maintain the license, nothing else.

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