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    Struggling to Understand Kernel and OS Separation

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      @cnewman we reached out to your reference but, unfortunately, he was unable to speak for you as you had hoped and only wanted to clarify that you were his customer, not someone who worked for him.

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      But you can see that now that we are not BBS dependent, email works around the clock. We no longer have to wait until Monday to send a message and often times people will even respond before working hours. Given the modern, multicultural world, what is the weekend to some is working days to others. So waiting for your own working hours to attempt messaging really is not as sensible as would have been in the phone-only or intra-office mail days of the 1960s. And email is now essentially always instant as email systems as "always on" today, rather than connecting only from time to time like with your telnet-connection BBS examples that you show.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Maybe @cnewman you meant to give us the email address of your actual employer but got confused as to which was which? If you'd like to try again, we'll contact another company for you and see if they are willing to vouch for you? What's reference number two going to be?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @cnewman
          last edited by

          @cnewman said in Struggling to Understand Kernel and OS Separation:

          Does Unix automatically expand disc space like Windows?

          Unix is not an OS. So blue run as fast as Usain Bolt? See, it's nonsensical. That's why we have these explanations about kernel vs. OS, API vs. kernel, etc. And this is why semantics and accuracy always matter in IT.

          If you just use words that you have heard and don't know what they are or what they represent, you end up asking questions that have no meaning.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
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            Do not forget that the linux.com link he provided actually says exactly what we have been saying. I quoted it earlier.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
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              And he brought it to SW. Thanks @RojoLoco for linking tp the thread.

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              • Minion QueenM
                Minion Queen Banned @cnewman
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                @cnewman said in Struggling to Understand Kernel and OS Separation:

                SAM you have so many like but you're so stupid at times.. WTF is wrong with you, are rewriting history?

                https://mangolassi.it/topic/60/our-community-guidelines

                No personally attacking any user.

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                • RojoLocoR
                  RojoLoco @cnewman
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                  @cnewman said in Struggling to Understand Kernel and OS Separation:

                  @stacksofplates
                  @scottalanmiller
                  It seems I'll have to email these sites to confirm Linux is NOT an Operating and is ONLY a Kernel as a system as Scott Stated, I'll do so on Monday.

                  End of discussion.

                  I'm not sure @cnewman AKA Curtis3363 is even qualified to work with this kernel...

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                  ...and btw, it's Monday, so please post the responses you received that would certainly poke massive holes in your daft notions of how things work.

                  ....printer programming??? Seriously, go back to the looney bin you escaped from, you need those meds they were giving you.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    Oh yes, it is Monday. He promised to email Linspire and let us know that they were not an OS.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ
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                      That was enjoyable, but I feel a bit dumber now after reading all that.

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                      • RamblingBipedR
                        RamblingBiped @cnewman
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                        All that needs to be done to prove that Linux is an Operating System is to provide us a screenshot as an example of the OS installed and running.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @RamblingBiped
                          last edited by

                          @RamblingBiped said in Struggling to Understand Kernel and OS Separation:

                          All that needs to be done to prove that Linux is an Operating System is to provide us a screenshot as an example of the OS installed and running.

                          We've been waiting on this.

                          And those letters from the companies that he accuses of not making OSes and not having GUIs, too.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            I'm wondering how @cnewman is getting a conversation with Linspire considering they disappeared a full eight years ago...

                            https://www.linux.com/news/linspire-going-away

                            ANd even Freespire, the OS that replaced Linspire, is long gone with its domain pointing to:

                            http://treatment.dentalimplantslifeline.com/

                            And even Xandros, the company that bought Linspire, eight years ago before shutting it down, has been gone long enough to no longer have a website.

                            Inquiring minds want to know!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              By the way, Wikipedia says that Corel Linux was an OS. Just saying.

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corel_Linux

                              THis is another one that @cnewman asked us to verify with. A rare OS that didn't last even a year disappearing in 2000. Yeah, sixteen years ago. Corel Linux was dead and gone for eight years before Linspire packed up and vanished.

                              I feel like he's intentionally searching out OSes in the hope that no one knows what the words were any longer to try to hide his shame. Or does he really think that these are the Linux based OSes around?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Likewise, Mandrake Linux disappeared in 2005. Now we could give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he meant Mandriva, not Mandrake, and that would give him until 2011. Still, either five years or eleven years since those products disappeared.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  It's telling that @cnewman failed to even be able to name a single current or business class OS built on Linux. None have existed for at least five years. All three were total jokes in their time - all meant for children or hobbyists or really, really incapable and non-technical end users.

                                  And all three were specifically built around an all-GUI experience which goes against @cnewman's own claims that Linux cannot have a GUI as he defined it as being GUIless as part of what made it Linux.

                                  Clearly, he's never even encountered a Linux system before. Over and over again the same issues... not even able to produce a plausible lie.

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                                  • CloudKnightC
                                    CloudKnight
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                                    Wow, is all I can say on this thread....

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
                                      last edited by

                                      @StuartJordan said in Struggling to Understand Kernel and OS Separation:

                                      Wow, is all I can say on this thread....

                                      Yeah, that about sums it all up.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Hey @cnewman didn't want you to forget to get back to us with the responses from your references. We are all very interested to hear what Corel and Linspire have to say about all of this. Their input will be most valuable.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Okay @cnewman just checking to see how those responses from your references are working out? I'm sure that they are very anxious for you to share their responses with the public so that we can figure out what Linux is. The technical world is waiting on you to enlighten us. Any day now, just go ahead and post.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Also wondering how the new HP DRM is affecting your printer programming career.

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