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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

      @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

      @DustinB3403 What actions have you taken with regards to logs been written to USB?

      That is still up in the air, I've been working to get a good, searchable solution in place and haven't been able to complete anything. Up until now logging has gone directly to the USB without issue.

      @BRRABill @DustinB3403 What do both of you plan to do regarding "logging + USB"?

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

        @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

        @scottalanmiller If one used your method of one large array, what is the advantage of using a 64GB USB stick? Just seems like your adding more complication?

        Rapid restore, ability to image, ability to flip back and forth between versions.... and some platforms like ESXi can't do the single array without the USB/SD approach.

        @scottalanmiller What do you prefer: one large array-[XS o/s + VMs] or USB (aka small SSD or HDD)-[XS o/s] + large array-[VMs] ??

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

          @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

          @scottalanmiller If one used your method of one large array, what is the advantage of using a 64GB USB stick? Just seems like your adding more complication?

          Rapid restore, ability to image, ability to flip back and forth between versions.... and some platforms like ESXi can't do the single array without the USB/SD approach.

          @scottalanmiller What do you prefer: one large array-[XS o/s + VMs] or USB (aka small SSD or HDD)-[XS o/s] + large array-[VMs] ??

          When feasible, SD card for hypervisor and RAID array for VMs is ideal. But SD installation causes a lot of headaches for people that either have hardware that doesn't support it easily and/or aren't comfortable with getting logging pointed somewhere other than the SD card. You have to adjust the write behaviour manually or it will not likely be properly reliable. In which case, install to the main array becomes the better approach.

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller Thank for clearing that up.

            Why can't we get a simple & concise guide to external logging?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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              @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

              @scottalanmiller Thank for clearing that up.

              Why can't we get a simple & concise guide to external logging?

              Because XS isn't up and running in the NTG lab yet and no one else is actively working on it to completion.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                @scottalanmiller Thank for clearing that up.

                Why can't we get a simple & concise guide to external logging?

                Because XS isn't up and running in the NTG lab yet and no one else is actively working on it to completion.

                Well, I am.

                But can I borrow your brain for the next few days, haha.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @FATeknollogee
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                  @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                  @DustinB3403 said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                  @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                  @DustinB3403 What actions have you taken with regards to logs been written to USB?

                  That is still up in the air, I've been working to get a good, searchable solution in place and haven't been able to complete anything. Up until now logging has gone directly to the USB without issue.

                  @BRRABill @DustinB3403 What do both of you plan to do regarding "logging + USB"?

                  Still working on it.

                  My goal is to get it to boot off USB, log externally, and write nothing to the USB.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                    @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                    @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                    @scottalanmiller Thank for clearing that up.

                    Why can't we get a simple & concise guide to external logging?

                    Because XS isn't up and running in the NTG lab yet and no one else is actively working on it to completion.

                    Well, I am.

                    But can I borrow your brain for the next few days, haha.

                    Go for it. First thing we need to do is test those new files.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                      @BRRABill said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                      @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                      @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                      @scottalanmiller Thank for clearing that up.

                      Why can't we get a simple & concise guide to external logging?

                      Because XS isn't up and running in the NTG lab yet and no one else is actively working on it to completion.

                      Well, I am.

                      But can I borrow your brain for the next few days, haha.

                      Go for it. First thing we need to do is test those new files.

                      OK, when I get in today, I'll look at the logging mechanisms, and post to the other thread I have going.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                        @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                        @BRRABill said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                        @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                        @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                        @scottalanmiller Thank for clearing that up.

                        Why can't we get a simple & concise guide to external logging?

                        Because XS isn't up and running in the NTG lab yet and no one else is actively working on it to completion.

                        Well, I am.

                        But can I borrow your brain for the next few days, haha.

                        Go for it. First thing we need to do is test those new files.

                        OK, when I get in today, I'll look at the logging mechanisms, and post to the other thread I have going.

                        Create a clean thread, should be easier to follow.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                          @BRRABill said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                          @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                          @BRRABill said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                          @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                          @scottalanmiller Thank for clearing that up.

                          Why can't we get a simple & concise guide to external logging?

                          Because XS isn't up and running in the NTG lab yet and no one else is actively working on it to completion.

                          Well, I am.

                          But can I borrow your brain for the next few days, haha.

                          Go for it. First thing we need to do is test those new files.

                          OK, when I get in today, I'll look at the logging mechanisms, and post to the other thread I have going.

                          Create a clean thread, should be easier to follow.

                          Will do.

                          What was the resolution with your thread. Didn't you post something about this like last week?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill I did, the solution I was looking at I never got to complete.

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee
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                              @BRRABill @DustinB3403 What's the latest info/news/update?

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                @BRRABill @DustinB3403 What's the latest info/news/update?

                                Oh wow this topic, I got graylog working for the log rotation from my hosts.

                                Use Xen Orchestra as your backup appliance.

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 No more logs written to your USB, 100% logs are going to graylog?

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                                    @FATeknollogee Yep.

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 Did you document that somewhere & I was just asleep at the wheel?

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                                        @FATeknollogee No I didn't, just followed the information that was already available.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                          @FATeknollogee No I didn't, just followed the information that was already available.

                                          Wait...did you get it to work on 6.5?

                                          The last we talked you did not. XS kept overwriting your config file.

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                                          • FATeknollogeeF
                                            FATeknollogee
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                                            I assumed we "are" talking about 7.0?

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