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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates
      last edited by

      Why do you have a second array?

      I'd just set up the Graylog virtual appliance and send the logs from XenServer to that.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        What is the point of changing anything? USB Does not just die that fast. Take the time to setup a log server and change your logging.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
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          @stacksofplates
          @JaredBusch

          XS still logs locally even if you send the logs elsewhere.

          I was under the impression that constant writing to a USB would kill it pretty quickly.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

            @stacksofplates
            @JaredBusch

            XS still logs locally even if you send the logs elsewhere.

            I was under the impression that constant writing to a USB would kill it pretty quickly.

            It just uses rsyslog. If you remove all of the local log info from /etc/rsyslog.conf it will only send to the remote server. You have to restart the rsyslog server after you do your edits.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @stacksofplates
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              @stacksofplates said

              It just uses rsyslog. If you remove all of the local log info from /etc/rsyslog.conf it will only send to the remote server. You have to restart the rsyslog server after you do your edits.

              I don't really want to get back into this (plenty of threads already) but In our testing of this, it was not the case.

              XS rewrote the rsyslog.conf every time.

              Are you using XS? Check yours. Did it rewrite it, or leave it as you wanted it?

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                @stacksofplates said

                It just uses rsyslog. If you remove all of the local log info from /etc/rsyslog.conf it will only send to the remote server. You have to restart the rsyslog server after you do your edits.

                I don't really want to get back into this (plenty of threads already) but In our testing of this, it was not the case.

                XS rewrote the rsyslog.conf every time.

                Are you using XS? Check yours. Did it rewrite it, or leave it as you wanted it?

                I'm not, I'm using KVM. But you can make that file immutable.

                chatter +i /etc/rsyslog.conf
                

                Not even root can modify that file until you remove the immutable flag.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates
                  last edited by stacksofplates

                  According to this http://xenserver.org/discuss-virtualization/virtualization-blog/entry/log-rotation-and-syslog-forwarding.html

                  It's rewriting from /var/lib/syslog.conf. So changing there should keep the changes.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                    My perceived downside with A and B is having to manually take the server down more often to make a clone. But this might only have to be done every few months, depending on the longevity of the USB stick.

                    And only as often as there are changes made.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                      @stacksofplates said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                      Why do you have a second array?

                      I'd just set up the Graylog virtual appliance and send the logs from XenServer to that.

                      He did not get that to work.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                        @stacksofplates
                        @JaredBusch

                        XS still logs locally even if you send the logs elsewhere.

                        I was under the impression that constant writing to a USB would kill it pretty quickly.

                        Can you show the entire configuration file for that situation?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                          last edited by

                          @stacksofplates said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                          @BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                          @stacksofplates
                          @JaredBusch

                          XS still logs locally even if you send the logs elsewhere.

                          I was under the impression that constant writing to a USB would kill it pretty quickly.

                          It just uses rsyslog. If you remove all of the local log info from /etc/rsyslog.conf it will only send to the remote server. You have to restart the rsyslog server after you do your edits.

                          This is important, XS uses rsyslog, the questions are purely ones about rsyslog, not XS. Don't think of this as how "XS behaves", it's just a matter of configuring rsyslog. It's identical to any OS that uses rsyslog.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                            XS rewrote the rsyslog.conf every time.

                            Ah, I never saw that mentioned and that means that you were addressing the wrong thing. You needed to stop it changing rsyslog.conf. What did you do to stop it from doing that?

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                              @BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                              XS rewrote the rsyslog.conf every time.

                              Ah, I never saw that mentioned and that means that you were addressing the wrong thing. You needed to stop it changing rsyslog.conf. What did you do to stop it from doing that?

                              Nothing. I followed the instructions in the above mentioned article.

                              This one...
                              http://xenserver.org/discuss-virtualization/virtualization-blog/entry/log-rotation-and-syslog-forwarding.html

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                              • DanpD
                                Danp
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                                @BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                                Nothing. I followed the instructions in the above mentioned article.

                                This one...
                                http://xenserver.org/discuss-virtualization/virtualization-blog/entry/log-rotation-and-syslog-forwarding.html

                                That's a really old post from well before XS7 came out. According to this recent post by a Citrix employee, the proper file to be editing is /etc/rsyslog.d/xenserver.conf

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @Danp
                                  last edited by

                                  @Danp said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                                  @BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                                  Nothing. I followed the instructions in the above mentioned article.

                                  This one...
                                  http://xenserver.org/discuss-virtualization/virtualization-blog/entry/log-rotation-and-syslog-forwarding.html

                                  That's a really old post from well before XS7 came out. According to this recent post by a Citrix employee, the proper file to be editing is /etc/rsyslog.d/xenserver.conf

                                  According to that post, XS7 has logging turned off be default?

                                  Or am I reading that wrong?

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                                  • DanpD
                                    Danp @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill By default, the messages file isn't being used for the system logs.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @Danp
                                      last edited by

                                      @Danp said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                                      @BRRABill By default, the messages file isn't being used for the system logs.

                                      But the logs themselves are still writing, correct?

                                      So you think if I comment out the xenserver.conf file, that might maintain the changes?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                                        @BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                                        XS rewrote the rsyslog.conf every time.

                                        Ah, I never saw that mentioned and that means that you were addressing the wrong thing. You needed to stop it changing rsyslog.conf. What did you do to stop it from doing that?

                                        Nothing. I followed the instructions in the above mentioned article.

                                        This one...
                                        http://xenserver.org/discuss-virtualization/virtualization-blog/entry/log-rotation-and-syslog-forwarding.html

                                        If this article isn't for doing what you want, why expect it to do something different than it is intended to do?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                                          @Danp said in Final Call ... XenServer Boot Media:

                                          @BRRABill By default, the messages file isn't being used for the system logs.

                                          But the logs themselves are still writing, correct?

                                          So you think if I comment out the xenserver.conf file, that might maintain the changes?

                                          If that is what Citrix says, then yes.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            Just try editing that file, reboot and see.

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