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    • DanpD
      Danp @FATeknollogee
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      @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

      That's a 'lil out of my wheelhouse!

      There's a whole thread on this forum discussing how to build it from source. The thread can be found here.

      There's a script that will take care of all of the hard work for you.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
        last edited by

        @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

        @Danp said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

        @FATeknollogee It's open source. Build it yourself for $0.00, FTW!

        That's a 'lil out of my wheelhouse!

        Build is totally the wrong term. There is no building. It's just an install.

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        • DanpD
          Danp @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

          Build is totally the wrong term. There is no building. It's just an install.

          You run an installation script, which in turn builds the app from source.

          Tomato.... tomatoe.

          😎

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Danp
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            @Danp said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

            @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

            Build is totally the wrong term. There is no building. It's just an install.

            You run an installation script, which in turn builds the app from source.

            Tomato.... tomatoe.

            😎

            It installs from source, does not build. Building implies compiling. You don't "build" MS Office when you install it, it just installs. Same with XO. There is no building, just installing.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              The thing that allows for the quirk in the language (aka: "from source") is that it is an interpreted language, so you are installing "from source" but the source doesn't get compiled, just copied. The same as any installation.

              So if you copy a text file from one spot to another....

              cp file.txt file2.txt
              

              You just "installed from source". But it's just a copy command.

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              • DanpD
                Danp @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller I know were splitting hairs, but if that were completely accurate, then you could simply git clone the repository and then run the app without performing npm install or npm build.

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee
                  last edited by FATeknollogee

                  So none of you are $upporting the XO "cause" by using the paid version?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                    last edited by

                    @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                    So none of you are $upporting the XO "cause" by using the paid version?

                    We highly recommend the paid version. Support is a great thing, pre-built appliance is awesome... just don't think that it isn't free for those that want or need it. It's totally free and open source, too.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee
                      last edited by

                      I understand that it's FOSS.

                      Question is, who here is using the paid version?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                        last edited by

                        @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                        I understand that it's FOSS.

                        Question is, who here is using the paid version?

                        No XenServer in production here right now, so wouldn't be prudent.

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                          I understand that it's FOSS.

                          Question is, who here is using the paid version?

                          No XenServer in production here right now, so wouldn't be prudent.

                          How can anyone be a XS "proponent/advocate/promoter" but not use it in production?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                            last edited by

                            @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                            @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                            @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                            I understand that it's FOSS.

                            Question is, who here is using the paid version?

                            No XenServer in production here right now, so wouldn't be prudent.

                            How can anyone be a XS "proponent/advocate/promoter" but not use it in production?

                            I have XS in production, and use XO from Source (it's worked great, and @olivier is more willing than not to assist. Just don't expect a 24/7 window of support.

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                              @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                              @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                              @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                              I understand that it's FOSS.

                              Question is, who here is using the paid version?

                              No XenServer in production here right now, so wouldn't be prudent.

                              How can anyone be a XS "proponent/advocate/promoter" but not use it in production?

                              I have XS in production, and use XO from Source (it's worked great, and @olivier is more willing than not to assist. Just don't expect a 24/7 window of support.

                              @DustinB3403 Can you talk a little more about your prod XS: how many hosts, how many VMs, when was this setup etc?

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                @DustinB3403 said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                I understand that it's FOSS.

                                Question is, who here is using the paid version?

                                No XenServer in production here right now, so wouldn't be prudent.

                                How can anyone be a XS "proponent/advocate/promoter" but not use it in production?

                                I have XS in production, and use XO from Source (it's worked great, and @olivier is more willing than not to assist. Just don't expect a 24/7 window of support.

                                @DustinB3403 Can you talk a little more about your prod XS: how many hosts, how many VMs, when was this setup etc?

                                I have 4 host (2 standalone, and 2 in an HALizard Pool).

                                On the pool, I've only got 3 VM's atm (will be going up in a in the next week or so). The pool has been up for about 4 months, the Standalone servers have been running for close to a year using MD RAID.

                                On my "production" standalone host I have 10 or so VM's running at any given time. I use it to run VDI tools, XO, and IT appliances that don't reach my general user base.

                                The pool is running our file servers, exchange server (federated services exchange) and an application server that is running SW for a separate department.

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403

                                  What is the hardware for your 4x hosts? Dell, HP, SM?

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                                    last edited by

                                    @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                    @DustinB3403

                                    What is the hardware for your 4x hosts? Dell, HP, SM?

                                    My pool is comprised of two R730's from xByte, the standalone "production" system is a Whitebox, and my last system is just a desktop I repurposed and setup MD RAID 10 with.

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 I thought you guys have always preached HW Raid. Why your choice of MD RAID?

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                                        last edited by

                                        @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                        @DustinB3403 I thought you guys have always preached HW Raid. Why your choice of MD RAID?

                                        That is an entire other thread on it's own. To summarize (business management).

                                        MD Raid is very capable and reliable (you just need to know how to manage it) Hardware RAID is the "make life simple" choice.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                          I understand that it's FOSS.

                                          Question is, who here is using the paid version?

                                          No XenServer in production here right now, so wouldn't be prudent.

                                          How can anyone be a XS "proponent/advocate/promoter" but not use it in production?

                                          I have XS in production, and use XO from Source (it's worked great, and @olivier is more willing than not to assist. Just don't expect a 24/7 window of support.

                                          @DustinB3403 Can you talk a little more about your prod XS: how many hosts, how many VMs, when was this setup etc?

                                          I have 4 host (2 standalone, and 2 in an HALizard Pool).

                                          On the pool, I've only got 3 VM's atm (will be going up in a in the next week or so). The pool has been up for about 4 months, the Standalone servers have been running for close to a year using MD RAID.

                                          On my "production" standalone host I have 10 or so VM's running at any given time. I use it to run VDI tools, XO, and IT appliances that don't reach my general user base.

                                          The pool is running our file servers, exchange server (federated services exchange) and an application server that is running SW for a separate department.

                                          Are you still booting off USB?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by

                                            @FATeknollogee said in XenServer: Backup & Replication:

                                            @DustinB3403 I thought you guys have always preached HW Raid. Why your choice of MD RAID?

                                            We do, but it is not always an option.

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