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    Hyper-V 2008 VM System State Backup to USB

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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in Hyper-V 2008 VM System State Backup to USB:

      I found a way to do this without having to pass the USB to the VM (at least through Hyper-V)

      I connected the USB to the hyper-v host, from within the Hyper-V host I shared the drive out.

      From within the VM I'm running this process to the UNC path of the USB.

      Still painful but at least it works... also makes it easy to migrate the VM to anothe rhost if you need to do so.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @dafyre
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        @dafyre Yeah, not as painful as I figured it would be.

        The end goal is to migrate this VM into XS come Saturday. Having the system state if something goes sideways we can turn it back on, and let it replicate any changes.

        Which we aren't making any changes.

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        • thwrT
          thwr
          last edited by thwr

          What about a traditional backup? Something like Veeam?

          Just to clarify

          • Your host is 2008
          • is the host DC at the same time or is the DC a VM (this might not be supported by MS)
          • And there are some additional VMs?
          • Any other DCs around? Creating a new DC is way simpler and less dangerous than restoring a DC from backup
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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @thwr
            last edited by DustinB3403

            @thwr the vm is a DC.

            The system state backup method was "approved" by our MSP, so if it blows up I'm placing it at their feet, and ask why they skirted their responsibility.

            They are contracted to move this VM into the XS pool, I've expressly said that I don't want to deal with their mess, numerous times.

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            • thwrT
              thwr @DustinB3403
              last edited by thwr

              @DustinB3403 said in Hyper-V 2008 VM System State Backup to USB:

              @thwr the vm is a DC.

              The system state backup method was "approved" by our MSP, so if it blows up I'm placing it at their feet, and ask why they skirted their responsibility.

              They are contracted to move this VM into the XS pool, I've expressly said that I don't want to deal with their mess, numerous times.

              Wow. DC VMs are only supported on Hyper-V 2012R2 AND 2k12r2 guests and up afaik. Not sure if this is just about single and fully virtualized DCs.

              Anyway, it's probably better to install a new VM on Xen, let it join the domain and install AD roles on the new one. Carry over FSMO/PDC emulator roles to the new one in case the old one is running them. Don't forget DNS etc.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @travisdh1
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                @travisdh1 said in Hyper-V 2008 VM System State Backup to USB:

                Just be sure to test restoring it somewhere, looks like good advice. Though I'd want some sort of automatic scheduled backup. Why is this not a part of whatever backup system that is already in place?

                The hypervisor vms are backed up using shadow protect, the concern the MSP has (and this is fair) is the vm being a DC might not get backed up rapidly enough.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  This VM is running federated services for o365 as well... so yeah... that's probably why they don't want to touch it again.

                  More of their mess.

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                  • thwrT
                    thwr @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in Hyper-V 2008 VM System State Backup to USB:

                    This VM is running federated services for o365 as well... so yeah... that's probably why they don't want to touch it again.

                    More of their mess.

                    Sounds like fun... not.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      Exactly, I didn't set it up, and I've said I don't want to deal with these systems, yet this job keeps coming back to me.

                      I get limiting the MSP's hours for the job to try and save cost, but damn it they should have to clean up this mess.

                      Now I'm not doing anything with SP or the federated services, so if all goes smoothly (export > import) then fine. But these guys suck.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        PS if anyone wants to know who this MSP is, PM me and I'll let you know.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver
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                          Wait... this is a DC? Why not bring up a new DC on the XS pool and take down the old one. What benefit does moving it and potentially having it blow up have?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @coliver
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                            @coliver said in Hyper-V 2008 VM System State Backup to USB:

                            Wait... this is a DC? Why not bring up a new DC on the XS pool and take down the old one. What benefit does moving it and potentially having it blow up have?

                            Simply put we don't have any licensing available to do this, and the MSP is being a little bitch about it.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in Hyper-V 2008 VM System State Backup to USB:

                              This VM is running federated services for o365 as well... so yeah... that's probably why they don't want to touch it again.

                              More of their mess.

                              Ouch, we normally recommend not federating with O365 unless there is just no other option, just makes everything so fragile.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver
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                                Are you doing SSO or just password syncing with O365?

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver SSO...

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said in Hyper-V 2008 VM System State Backup to USB:

                                    @coliver SSO...

                                    There is only one server for SSO? Did those recommendations change recently? In the past Microsoft has recommended 4 servers to accommodate SSO with O365. They are doing it on a DC! That's against best practices and can cause a few non-trivial issues.

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                                    • Reid CooperR
                                      Reid Cooper @coliver
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                                      @coliver said in Hyper-V 2008 VM System State Backup to USB:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Hyper-V 2008 VM System State Backup to USB:

                                      @coliver SSO...

                                      There is only one server for SSO? Did those recommendations change recently? In the past Microsoft has recommended 4 servers to accommodate SSO with O365. They are doing it on a DC! That's against best practices and can cause a few non-trivial issues.

                                      My understanding is that three servers is fine. Two DCs and one sync/fed server. But four is better.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        @coliver I know, I wasn't even included in the conversation at the time when we migrated to O365, and I wasn't included in the conversation when they setup Hyper-V.

                                        Nor was I included when they built this VM, or the other reporting VM on Hyper-V to which 16GB of memory and 2 cores assigned to it...

                                        #SweepItLikeAJanitor

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