ML
    • Recent
    • Categories
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.

    IT Discussion
    5
    20
    3.0k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • AjinA
      Ajin
      last edited by

      Thanks for the reply Dustin.

      My actual need is to take a snapshot of the Development server before making any vital changes in the server , so that i can revert safely if any thing goes wrong , as reverting snapshot will take very little time and easy to perform.

      DustinB3403D 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • dafyreD
        dafyre
        last edited by

        The 2TB drive that you are speaking of... Is that an INTERNAL drive, or is it an External drive?

        I see that LaCie and the first thing that went through my mind is it is an external drive.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • AjinA
          Ajin
          last edited by Ajin

          IT an External drive , which i have added to Xenserver with the following command .

          xe sr-create name-label="Local Storege 2 LACIE HDD" shared=false device-config:device=/dev/sdc type=lvm

          dafyreD 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @Ajin
            last edited by

            @Ajin said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

            Thanks for the reply Dustin.

            My actual need is to take a snapshot of the Development server before making any vital changes in the server , so that i can revert safely if any thing goes wrong , as reverting snapshot will take very little time and easy to perform.

            A snapshot can only work if it's on the same drive in which the VM resides. This LACIE drive is external, the only choice you have with this is to create a full backup to this drive and hope for the best. (that whatever changes you have works and that you don't need to revert)

            scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
            • dafyreD
              dafyre @Ajin
              last edited by

              @Ajin said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

              IT an External drive , which i have added to Xenserver with the following command .

              xe sr-create name-label="Local Storege 2 LACIE HDD" shared=false device-config:device=/dev/sdc type=lvm

              Does your VM actually run from that LaCie drive, or does it run from internal drives on your server?

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • AjinA
                Ajin
                last edited by

                The VM is running from internal drive in my server.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Ajin
                  last edited by

                  @Ajin Welcome back

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

                    The Lacie drive is not at all local to the server. It's attached storage and therefore not available to be used as "snapshot" storage. If you wanted to use the Lacie as a place to store your actual backups (snapshots are not backups) you could do that.

                    But using the snapshot functionality, you need space on the disk that is housing the VM.

                    It is as local to the server as anything else is. It's a DAS unit and therefore identical to the server as if it were inside the chassis.

                    DustinB3403D 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

                      @Ajin said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

                      Thanks for the reply Dustin.

                      My actual need is to take a snapshot of the Development server before making any vital changes in the server , so that i can revert safely if any thing goes wrong , as reverting snapshot will take very little time and easy to perform.

                      A snapshot can only work if it's on the same drive in which the VM resides. This LACIE drive is external, the only choice you have with this is to create a full backup to this drive and hope for the best. (that whatever changes you have works and that you don't need to revert)

                      This is the important part. Not that the Lacie is internal or not, but that it needs to be the same block device as the server for snapshots to be able to snap initially.

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

                        The Lacie drive is not at all local to the server. It's attached storage and therefore not available to be used as "snapshot" storage. If you wanted to use the Lacie as a place to store your actual backups (snapshots are not backups) you could do that.

                        But using the snapshot functionality, you need space on the disk that is housing the VM.

                        It is as local to the server as anything else is. It's a DAS unit and therefore identical to the server as if it were inside the chassis.

                        I'll disagree to this with regards that it's not the same block device. Therefor it's "external" as far as the system cares to use it for this case.

                        scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

                          The Lacie drive is not at all local to the server. It's attached storage and therefore not available to be used as "snapshot" storage. If you wanted to use the Lacie as a place to store your actual backups (snapshots are not backups) you could do that.

                          But using the snapshot functionality, you need space on the disk that is housing the VM.

                          It is as local to the server as anything else is. It's a DAS unit and therefore identical to the server as if it were inside the chassis.

                          I'll disagree to this with regards that it's not the same block device. Therefor it's "external" as far as the system cares to use it for this case.

                          That cannot be correct simply because you can have thousands of totally different block devices all equally local and internal to the chassis. One is not more internal or local than the other. I have two totally independent block devices on the latest VM that I built. They are totally unrelated to each other, but both are equally local.

                          Two different block devices can even come from the same physical drive!

                          DustinB3403D 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by DustinB3403

                            @scottalanmiller said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

                            The Lacie drive is not at all local to the server. It's attached storage and therefore not available to be used as "snapshot" storage. If you wanted to use the Lacie as a place to store your actual backups (snapshots are not backups) you could do that.

                            But using the snapshot functionality, you need space on the disk that is housing the VM.

                            It is as local to the server as anything else is. It's a DAS unit and therefore identical to the server as if it were inside the chassis.

                            I'll disagree to this with regards that it's not the same block device. Therefor it's "external" as far as the system cares to use it for this case.

                            That cannot be correct simply because you can have thousands of totally different block devices all equally local and internal to the chassis. One is not more internal or local than the other. I have two totally independent block devices on the latest VM that I built. They are totally unrelated to each other, but both are equally local.

                            Two different block devices can even come from the same physical drive!

                            My point is, for the use of Snapshot it's a different block device, external to the one in which the VM lives. It can't be used to create snapshots.

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • AjinA
                              Ajin
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller Thankyou .

                              I was just testing moving the VM to the new storage , moved the VM to the new storage , changed the mac id and it works good , Now i can take snap since the vm resides in the new storage with enough space for snapshot

                              scottalanmillerS BRRABillB 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 4
                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Ajin
                                last edited by

                                @Ajin said in Adding new Local Storage to XenServer.:

                                @scottalanmiller Thankyou .

                                I was just testing moving the VM to the new storage , moved the VM to the new storage , changed the mac id and it works good , Now i can take snap since the vm resides in the new storage with enough space for snapshot

                                Great!

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • AjinA
                                  Ajin
                                  last edited by

                                  Thank-you all for the valuble suggetions 🙂

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @Ajin
                                    last edited by

                                    @Ajin said

                                    I was just testing moving the VM to the new storage , moved the VM to the new storage , changed the mac id and it works good , Now i can take snap since the vm resides in the new storage with enough space for snapshot

                                    It's awesome when it works like that, right?

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                    • AjinA
                                      Ajin
                                      last edited by

                                      Yes It is 🙂

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Another ML success story 🙂

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                        • 1 / 1
                                        • First post
                                          Last post