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    • J
      Jimmy9008
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      @BRRABill said in So we are leaving..............:

      @scottalanmiller said

      Not shocked at all, I've predicted this since the referendum was called. From the US side, it looks firmly like the UK was looking to Trump and following the US election and using that propaganda at home. Trump certainly can be president and I honestly think is likely to be.

      If you look at the reasoning for the exit, it sounds like Trump wrote it.

      If they do not help make it a success, they will lose out on the money from the UK and will be unable to support the EU. Either way, sounds like EU has some difficult times ahead too.

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        Jimmy9008
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        Was supposed to quote:

        "The EU will do whatever it takes to punish the UK. They can't allow a successful Brexit or other nations will follow"

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        • NattNattN
          NattNatt @IRJ
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          @IRJ said in So we are leaving..............:

          The EU will do whatever it takes to punish the UK. They can't allow a successful Brexit or other nations will follow.

          https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13501807_10154606160691664_6497883627510889077_n.jpg?oh=dea0efd735240c0e299787bd4673dc1f&oe=58090C0B

          Like that then?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @NattNatt
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            @NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:

            @IRJ said in So we are leaving..............:

            The EU will do whatever it takes to punish the UK. They can't allow a successful Brexit or other nations will follow.

            https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13501807_10154606160691664_6497883627510889077_n.jpg?oh=dea0efd735240c0e299787bd4673dc1f&oe=58090C0B

            Like that then?

            I'm not really sure what this even means?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              It means that the EU will try to punish the UK for leaving, and will try to deny them the ability to rejoin the EU.

              He's saying the EU is better off without the UK, and they can go suck eggs.

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in So we are leaving..............:

                It means that the EU will try to punish the UK for leaving, and will try to deny them the ability to rejoin the EU.

                He's saying the EU is better off without the UK, and they can go suck eggs.

                Yep. The EU has no choice not matter how much they need the UK. They have to pretend like they don't.

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                • Son of Jor-ElS
                  Son of Jor-El
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                  You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.

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                  • NattNattN
                    NattNatt @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in So we are leaving..............:

                    It means that the EU will try to punish the UK for leaving, and will try to deny them the ability to rejoin the EU.

                    He's saying the EU is better off without the UK, and they can go suck eggs.

                    not even rejoining the EU, it means we won't be able to stay with the single-market - that is an agreement between the EU countries and a few outside countries that never joined the EU - where basically they can trade between themselves without having to pay tax, but get better rates and preferential treatment etc...part of the Leave campain's rhetoric was that we could still be a part of that...

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                    • NattNattN
                      NattNatt @Son of Jor-El
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                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

                      You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.

                      Because they didn't want there to be a reason to have anymore massive wars. They wanted peace and unity. Since the EU was formed, there has been 0 conflict between any of the member states...the longest period of peace in the region for hundreds of years or longer... It has so many positives to its member states, the European Convention of Human Rights and the open market agreement, freedom of movement and many more

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                      • Son of Jor-ElS
                        Son of Jor-El @NattNatt
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                        @NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:

                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

                        You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.

                        Because they didn't want there to be a reason to have anymore massive wars. They wanted peace and unity. Since the EU was formed, there has been 0 conflict between any of the member states...the longest period of peace in the region for hundreds of years or longer... It has so many positives to its member states, the European Convention of Human Rights and the open market agreement, freedom of movement and many more

                        OK, so before I form any opinions, why would Britain leave? They don't strike me as war mongers. LOL

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                          Jimmy9008 @Son of Jor-El
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                          @Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

                          @NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:

                          @Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

                          You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.

                          Because they didn't want there to be a reason to have anymore massive wars. They wanted peace and unity. Since the EU was formed, there has been 0 conflict between any of the member states...the longest period of peace in the region for hundreds of years or longer... It has so many positives to its member states, the European Convention of Human Rights and the open market agreement, freedom of movement and many more

                          OK, so before I form any opinions, why would Britain leave? They don't strike me as war mongers. LOL

                          Because the EU was destroying this nation.

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                            Dashrender @Jimmy9008
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                            @Jimmy9008 said in So we are leaving..............:

                            @Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

                            @NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:

                            @Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

                            You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.

                            Because they didn't want there to be a reason to have anymore massive wars. They wanted peace and unity. Since the EU was formed, there has been 0 conflict between any of the member states...the longest period of peace in the region for hundreds of years or longer... It has so many positives to its member states, the European Convention of Human Rights and the open market agreement, freedom of movement and many more

                            OK, so before I form any opinions, why would Britain leave? They don't strike me as war mongers. LOL

                            Because the EU was destroying this nation.

                            not that I agree or disagree - please explain how?

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                              thwr @Jimmy9008
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                              @Jimmy9008 said in So we are leaving..............:

                              @Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

                              @NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:

                              @Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

                              You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.

                              Because they didn't want there to be a reason to have anymore massive wars. They wanted peace and unity. Since the EU was formed, there has been 0 conflict between any of the member states...the longest period of peace in the region for hundreds of years or longer... It has so many positives to its member states, the European Convention of Human Rights and the open market agreement, freedom of movement and many more

                              OK, so before I form any opinions, why would Britain leave? They don't strike me as war mongers. LOL

                              Because the EU was destroying this nation.

                              And... how exactly?

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                                Jimmy9008
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                                You can find more online rather than me typing it all out, but one thing that really made me angry as an example is this (from a while ago, but still):

                                http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29754168
                                ^ £1.7 Billion Bill in 2014 from the EU. Most other countries got payment to them, including Germany who have a better economy. Cameron said he wouldn't pay, but, oh look - he paid:
                                http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3237073/Cameron-Osborne-quietly-pay-1-7BILLION-bill-Brussels-dismisses-totally-unacceptable.html

                                Quite how Greece, who were totally up **** creek got a £70m bill to pay, I don't know. Sure EU, it makes sense to hit a country that is totally screwed already with a bill. That makes LOADS of sense. Italy too that are in trouble were billed £268m. Its like we were fined for doing well and had to help the rest! Do better yourself rather than us. This time we cant help you as we are gone soon.

                                Just do your own research about the different issues.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  Damnit UK....

                                  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/24/japan-brexit-damage-control/86326262/

                                  The yen dropped under 100 JPY : 1 USD

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                                  • Son of Jor-ElS
                                    Son of Jor-El
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                                    Interesting. I was also reading France may look for a vote to leave if the elections next year go a certain way. The Dutch too.

                                    Like I said, trying not to form the opinion just yet but it seems like the EU is crumbing and it's the big boys wanting to leave.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Son of Jor-El
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                                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

                                      Interesting. I was also reading France may look for a vote to leave if the elections next year go a certain way. The Dutch too.

                                      Like I said, trying not to form the opinion just yet but it seems like the EU is crumbing and it's the big boys wanting to leave.

                                      The EU never stabilized. TO much national politics and not enough standardization.

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                                      • NattNattN
                                        NattNatt @Son of Jor-El
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                                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

                                        @NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:

                                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

                                        You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.

                                        Because they didn't want there to be a reason to have anymore massive wars. They wanted peace and unity. Since the EU was formed, there has been 0 conflict between any of the member states...the longest period of peace in the region for hundreds of years or longer... It has so many positives to its member states, the European Convention of Human Rights and the open market agreement, freedom of movement and many more

                                        OK, so before I form any opinions, why would Britain leave? They don't strike me as war mongers. LOL

                                        Because the Leave leaders ran a campaign of fear, played on peoples xenophobia and insecurities, promised the world, and have already said "well actually...we didn't mean it"...

                                        And some people STILL believe all the figures that were quoted without checking for the facts.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @NattNatt
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                                          @NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:

                                          @Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

                                          @NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:

                                          @Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:

                                          You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.

                                          Because they didn't want there to be a reason to have anymore massive wars. They wanted peace and unity. Since the EU was formed, there has been 0 conflict between any of the member states...the longest period of peace in the region for hundreds of years or longer... It has so many positives to its member states, the European Convention of Human Rights and the open market agreement, freedom of movement and many more

                                          OK, so before I form any opinions, why would Britain leave? They don't strike me as war mongers. LOL

                                          Because the Leave leaders ran a campaign of fear, played on peoples xenophobia and insecurities, promised the world, and have already said "well actually...we didn't mean it"...

                                          And some people STILL believe all the figures that were quoted without checking for the facts.

                                          Sounds familiar....

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                                          • nadnerBN
                                            nadnerB
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                                            I'll blame the peasants. 😛



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