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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by

      The absolute first thing that popped into my mind after seeing the title of the thread.

      https://41.media.tumblr.com/bb8e9673a6c74267221f90cafd78661d/tumblr_inline_nof0w5EGIW1r2mbwp_540.jpg

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
        last edited by

        On topic.

        You need to step back and think about all the things you are doing.

        Not just the job.

        • Why are you in school
        • Is you job in your desired career field
        • Why are you in this career field

        Those answers will lead to things like this though.

        • Can I sell my house and move for better opportunities
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        • bbigfordB
          bbigford @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said in AstroTurf is super green.:

          The absolute first thing that popped into my mind after seeing the title of the thread.

          https://41.media.tumblr.com/bb8e9673a6c74267221f90cafd78661d/tumblr_inline_nof0w5EGIW1r2mbwp_540.jpg

          I love The Fifth Element.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @bbigford
            last edited by

            @BBigford said in AstroTurf is super green.:

            I love The Fifth Element.

            I once named every device on a network after 5th Element characters.

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            • bbigfordB
              bbigford @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said in AstroTurf is super green.:

              On topic.

              You need to step back and think about all the things you are doing.

              Not just the job.

              • Why are you in school
              • Is you job in your desired career field
              • Why are you in this career field

              Those answers will lead to things like this though.

              • Can I sell my house and move for better opportunities

              I'm in school not out of necessity, but because I've always wanted a degree. My family wasn't ever big on people going to college, so I have wanted to go. I'm doing it now, and killing it, so I want to see it through.

              My job is in my desired field, I've been in IT for just over 10 years, and a sysadmin for 7 of those.

              I'm in this field because of the interest in systems, but more so because of the change. I'm never comfortable because of new/changing technology, and diverse/complex networks. My favorite so far has been a network architect for emerging businesses. I worked for a booming little place that was growing fast, but not too fast. A bad investment stretched the company so thin that they started winding down to a bitter end. That's another thing about me, I'd rather take a risk with an emerging company and work on the growth side of things, than be incredibly stable at a massive corporation.

              I've worked for big companies, and hated every day I walked through those doors.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Never "quit immediately" unless it is because of ethical, safety or "you literally can't handle it any longer" reasons... and none of those allow you to be in the position of considering an alternative. So stick to it for now, find something good before leaving.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by stacksofplates

                  @scottalanmiller said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                  Never "quit immediately" unless it is because of ethical, safety or "you literally can't handle it any longer" reasons... and none of those allow you to be in the position of considering an alternative. So stick to it for now, find something good before leaving.

                  And if nothing else, this builds character. There may be times where you literally won't have the option to leave even if you could give up everything.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                    @BBigford said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                    I love The Fifth Element.

                    I once named every device on a network after 5th Element characters.

                    And you logged into them with your multipass?

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                      @JaredBusch said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                      @BBigford said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                      I love The Fifth Element.

                      I once named every device on a network after 5th Element characters.

                      And you logged into them with your multipass?

                      The system was an access contorl system. It ran on a Windows NT4 Server with SQL Sever and NT4 desktops for creating the badges and the security guards to monitor.

                      So it was sort of creating multipasses.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @JaredBusch
                        last edited by dafyre

                        @JaredBusch said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                        @scottalanmiller said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                        @JaredBusch said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                        @BBigford said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                        I love The Fifth Element.

                        I once named every device on a network after 5th Element characters.

                        And you logged into them with your multipass?

                        The system was an access contorl system. It ran on a Windows NT4 Server with SQL Sever and NT4 desktops for creating the badges and the security guards to monitor.

                        So it was sort of creating multipasses.

                        excitedly holds up small card with my picture on it...Multipass!

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                        • bbigfordB
                          bbigford @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                          Never "quit immediately" unless it is because of ethical, safety or "you literally can't handle it any longer"

                          Ethically, it was about a month away from what I could handle. Safety, nothing there.

                          "Literally can't handle it any longer"... you got it.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
                            last edited by

                            @dafyre said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                            @JaredBusch said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                            @scottalanmiller said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                            @JaredBusch said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                            @BBigford said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                            I love The Fifth Element.

                            I once named every device on a network after 5th Element characters.

                            And you logged into them with your multipass?

                            The system was an access contorl system. It ran on a Windows NT4 Server with SQL Sever and NT4 desktops for creating the badges and the security guards to monitor.

                            So it was sort of creating multipasses.

                            excitedly holds up small card with my picture on it...Multipass!

                            https://henryherz.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/multipass.jpeg

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                            • J
                              Jason Banned
                              last edited by

                              Does your employer not pay for schooling?

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ
                                last edited by

                                How close are you to the degree? A degree in IT is rarely worth getting unless you want more of a hands off management position.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ
                                  last edited by

                                  Also you say you want to work for small startups instead of big companies. Big companies are generally the only ones that care about a degree.

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                                  • bbigfordB
                                    bbigford @Jason
                                    last edited by

                                    @Jason said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                                    Does your employer not pay for schooling?

                                    Nope. I was told that it would happen during my hiring process. Then that just went away. I inquired about it, and was just told no. I pressed about why, and was just told it wasn't in the budget. I asked if it was due to poor performance or something similiar, and was told I was doing a fantastic job.

                                    It didn't really add up as we are so far in the green with profits it's not funny so "it's not in the budget" is something I've questioned. They also show how profitable we are, but rarely give out raises. For instance, they gave high profile people a raise 5 years ago. People that are the tip of the spear for accountability and have shown proven results when it comes to return on investments.

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                                    • bbigfordB
                                      bbigford @IRJ
                                      last edited by bbigford

                                      @IRJ said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                                      How close are you to the degree? A degree in IT is rarely worth getting unless you want more of a hands off management position.

                                      Not close. I just completed my first year. Still 3 to go. I don't want to be a manager. The last place I was at I managed 8 people and I hate it. Managing people vs. managing tech is not one of my strong points. I'm too hands on, and I find that I micro manage. Plus, I am too hard on people. When it comes to colleagues, I completely leave them alone unless they ask me for help so I'm a better team member than a manager/supervisor.

                                      I just want to stick in systems. I'm not getting a management degree anyway. I'm getting a BAS in network administration (heavier emphasis on systems though).

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                                        Jason Banned @bbigford
                                        last edited by

                                        @BBigford said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                                        @Jason said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                                        Does your employer not pay for schooling?

                                        Nope. I was told that it would happen during my hiring process

                                        That's bait and switch and it's illegal to do that for job offers. though it happens a lot.

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                                        • IRJI
                                          IRJ @bbigford
                                          last edited by

                                          @BBigford said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                                          @IRJ said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                                          How close are you to the degree? A degree in IT is rarely worth getting unless you want more of a hands off management position.

                                          Not close. I just completed my first year. Still 3 to go. I don't want to be a manager. The last place I was at I managed 8 people and I hate it. Managing people vs. managing tech is not one of my strong points. I'm too hands on, and I find that I micro manage. Plus, I am too hard on people. When it comes to colleagues, I completely leave them alone unless they ask me for help so I'm a better team member than a manager/supervisor.

                                          I just want to stick in systems. I'm not getting a management degree anyway. I'm getting a BAS in network administration (heavier emphasis on systems though).

                                          With 10 years experience it really isn't going to help you much at all if at all.

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                                          • bbigfordB
                                            bbigford @Jason
                                            last edited by

                                            @Jason said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                                            @BBigford said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                                            @Jason said in AstroTurf is super green.:

                                            Does your employer not pay for schooling?

                                            Nope. I was told that it would happen during my hiring process

                                            That's bait and switch and it's illegal to do that for job offers. though it happens a lot.

                                            I saw this coming months and months ago. You get just enough to keep you here. But some people look like they've been served a life sentence in a business they can't stand. Others love it, even if they do get treated poorly, because they invest so much trust in the company and that they'll make things right some time.

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