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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      There's also the option of using 3 drives in RAID 1. You get three time the read speed and two drives worth of failure.

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      • HPEStorageGuyH
        HPEStorageGuy
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        I haven't seen data about performance of RAID 5 vs RAID 1 with SSD but the typical "read-modify-write" penalty you get with RAID 5 shouldn't hurt too much with SSD latency. For me, the question is as much about capacity as performance. If you use 2 SSDs in RAID 1, the capacity is half what you giet if you use all three in RAID 5. To show this, let's assume the drives are 1TB:

        • 3 drives, RAID 5 (2+1) = 2TB useable capacity. You also have the benefit of 3 SSDs involved in every read. There isn't a "spare" sitting around waiting for a failure" - you're using all 3 drives.

        • 2 drives, RAID 1 = 1TB useable capacity. If you can use RAID 10, you'd have the benefit of 2 SSDs in on every IO. You of course had the spare drive if there's a failure. However, the reliability of SSDs we've seen is that they are much better than HDD so you might never need this spare drive.

        So without really knowing anything about your workload, I'd lean toward RAID 5.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @HPEStorageGuy
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          @HPEStorageGuy

          Thanks for the detailed writeup.

          After my issues last night with drives, I decided it's not worth having a drive on the shelf for all those years, and not even knowing if it works or not.

          I'm going to go with the 2TB RAID5 setup. And also throw some holy water on the server. Someplace it can't get into the server, of course!

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            RAID 5 doesn't give you benefit of 3 drives in read. If the file is large enough you might get three, but if it's small enough you'd only get one, where the actual data is.

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            • tonyshowoffT
              tonyshowoff
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              1. Three drives is not enough to justify RAID5, and if you've got a lot of drives, jump over to RAID6 if you're just going for a ton of space. Though if you can setup a bunch of RAID10s that'd be better. However, three drives, it's just better to use RAID1.
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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @tonyshowoff
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                @tonyshowoff said in Drive Configuration Poll:

                1. Three drives is not enough to justify RAID5, and if you've got a lot of drives, jump over to RAID6 if you're just going for a ton of space. Though if you can setup a bunch of RAID10s that'd be better. However, three drives, it's just better to use RAID1.

                You did see that this is SSD drives, right? and that he only has 3 drive, so RAID 6 and 10 are completely out. His only options are JOBD, RAID 1 with two drives, RAID 1 with three drives or RAID 5, or RAID 0.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said

                  You did see that this is SSD drives, right?

                  Yeah, considering that, I"m not really concerned about the read or write performance.

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                  • tonyshowoffT
                    tonyshowoff @Dashrender
                    last edited by tonyshowoff

                    @Dashrender said in Drive Configuration Poll:

                    @tonyshowoff said in Drive Configuration Poll:

                    1. Three drives is not enough to justify RAID5, and if you've got a lot of drives, jump over to RAID6 if you're just going for a ton of space. Though if you can setup a bunch of RAID10s that'd be better. However, three drives, it's just better to use RAID1.

                    You did see that this is SSD drives, right? and that he only has 3 drive, so RAID 6 and 10 are completely out. His only options are JOBD, RAID 1 with two drives, RAID 1 with three drives or RAID 5, or RAID 0.

                    Yes? That's why I said not enough drives, I saw that, and I suggested 1# out of the polling options and specifically said 3 drives: " Three drives is not enough to justify RAID5, and if you've got a lot of drives, jump over to RAID6" and this tells you that 1) I knew he only had three drives and 2) I saw that the second option was for RAID 5 and was explaining why that's not a good option.

                    Then I talked about the ideal if you do have enough drives just for making it clear what sort of setup you would want if you went beyond three drives, this information is useful to others reading beyond the OP.

                    I don't know where you're confused, I answer it in the first sentence. And what do SSD drives have to do with it? They fail too. I'm not even concerned with performance in this regard, with RAID1 and RAID5 you still can lose 1 disk, but if there's even bigger problems, recovering RAID1 is a lot easier than RAID5.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @tonyshowoff
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                      @tonyshowoff said in Drive Configuration Poll:

                      And what do SSD drives have to do with it?

                      They don't carry the URE risk of Winchesters which is by a huge margin the primary failure mode of parity arrays.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
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                        I'm about 3 seconds away from moving back to paper with this array, so it might not even matter.

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