Secure Windows 10 free upgrade...but still on Windows 7??
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Is there a way to secure the free Windows 10 upgrade while still on Windows 7? We do not have volume licensing.
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@LAH3385 Once you get the upgrade it converts your Win7 key to a Win 10. So you have to upgrade at that point since you are no longer licensed for win7
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Thanks
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@brianlittlejohn said:
@LAH3385 Once you get the upgrade it converts your Win7 key to a Win 10. So you have to upgrade at that point since you are no longer licensed for win7
Well - that's sorta true.
Assuming you're upgrading a Windows 7 Pro legally licensed machine, you can legally use downgrade rights to install Windows 7 again.
So for your situation, my recommendation would be to copy from the ISO \sources\gatherosstate.exe to the desktop, run it as an Admin, then save the created XML file to a USB stick.
Now install a new HD into the system, remove the current one. Install Windows 10 from scratch. Once the system is installed and running copy the above saved XML to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\GenuineTicket.
Reboot, check if the system is activated. If it is, shut it down and put your windows 7 HD back into the system and continue working. You have now activated that hardware with MS. When you're ready in the future, you can just install windows 10 and it will auto activate.
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@Dashrender said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@LAH3385 Once you get the upgrade it converts your Win7 key to a Win 10. So you have to upgrade at that point since you are no longer licensed for win7
Well - that's sorta true.
Assuming you're upgrading a Windows 7 Pro legally licensed machine, you can legally use downgrade rights to install Windows 7 again.
So for your situation, my recommendation would be to copy from the ISO \sources\gatherosstate.exe to the desktop, run it as an Admin, then save the created XML file to a USB stick.
Now install a new HD into the system, remove the current one. Install Windows 10 from scratch. Once the system is installed and running copy the above saved XML to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\GenuineTicket.
Reboot, check if the system is activated. If it is, shut it down and put your windows 7 HD back into the system and continue working. You have now activated that hardware with MS. When you're ready in the future, you can just install windows 10 and it will auto activate.
Great idea... but for 90 machines... that will take a whole week at least. Still might worth the money saved from Windows 10 license. Thanks
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@LAH3385 said:
@Dashrender said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@LAH3385 Once you get the upgrade it converts your Win7 key to a Win 10. So you have to upgrade at that point since you are no longer licensed for win7
Well - that's sorta true.
Assuming you're upgrading a Windows 7 Pro legally licensed machine, you can legally use downgrade rights to install Windows 7 again.
So for your situation, my recommendation would be to copy from the ISO \sources\gatherosstate.exe to the desktop, run it as an Admin, then save the created XML file to a USB stick.
Now install a new HD into the system, remove the current one. Install Windows 10 from scratch. Once the system is installed and running copy the above saved XML to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\GenuineTicket.
Reboot, check if the system is activated. If it is, shut it down and put your windows 7 HD back into the system and continue working. You have now activated that hardware with MS. When you're ready in the future, you can just install windows 10 and it will auto activate.
Great idea... but for 90 machines... that will take a whole week at least. Still might worth the money saved from Windows 10 license. Thanks
Assuming you had the time to upgrade them right now, you would still have to do this process or a full normal upgrade to get them activated for the free upgrade. At least with this method, you get the ability to easily keep your Windows 7 in it's current state.
FYI, you could save some time on the Win10 installs by creating an image, with sysprep, then blast that down to the drive, boot, get online, place the XML file on the system, reboot, activate replace old drive. Probably 15 mins a machine.
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@Dashrender said:
@LAH3385 said:
@Dashrender said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@LAH3385 Once you get the upgrade it converts your Win7 key to a Win 10. So you have to upgrade at that point since you are no longer licensed for win7
Well - that's sorta true.
Assuming you're upgrading a Windows 7 Pro legally licensed machine, you can legally use downgrade rights to install Windows 7 again.
So for your situation, my recommendation would be to copy from the ISO \sources\gatherosstate.exe to the desktop, run it as an Admin, then save the created XML file to a USB stick.
Now install a new HD into the system, remove the current one. Install Windows 10 from scratch. Once the system is installed and running copy the above saved XML to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\GenuineTicket.
Reboot, check if the system is activated. If it is, shut it down and put your windows 7 HD back into the system and continue working. You have now activated that hardware with MS. When you're ready in the future, you can just install windows 10 and it will auto activate.
Great idea... but for 90 machines... that will take a whole week at least. Still might worth the money saved from Windows 10 license. Thanks
Assuming you had the time to upgrade them right now, you would still have to do this process or a full normal upgrade to get them activated for the free upgrade. At least with this method, you get the ability to easily keep your Windows 7 in it's current state.
FYI, you could save some time on the Win10 installs by creating an image, with sysprep, then blast that down to the drive, boot, get online, place the XML file on the system, reboot, activate replace old drive. Probably 15 mins a machine.
Do you have a more detailed how-to on this?
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Does upgrading to Windows 10 comes with bloatware like how new laptop nowaday get.
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@LAH3385 said:
Does upgrading to Windows 10 comes with bloatware like how new laptop nowaday get.
Sadly - sorta.
When windows 10 goes online the first time, it downloads crap like CandyCrush and Twitter. Search these forums for the tag windows 10 and you'll find my post about how to stop that from happening.
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@Dashrender said:
@LAH3385 said:
Does upgrading to Windows 10 comes with bloatware like how new laptop nowaday get.
Sadly - sorta.
When windows 10 goes online the first time, it downloads crap like CandyCrush and Twitter. Search these forums for the tag windows 10 and you'll find my post about how to stop that from happening.
Does this help with bloatware? http://www.hwinfo.com/misc/RemoveW10Bloat.htm
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@LAH3385 said:
Does upgrading to Windows 10 comes with bloatware like how new laptop nowaday get.
It does
This is what he is referring to: http://mangolassi.it/topic/8691/fresh-win-10-install-doesn-t-include-crapware/2
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@LAH3385 said:
@Dashrender said:
@LAH3385 said:
Does upgrading to Windows 10 comes with bloatware like how new laptop nowaday get.
Sadly - sorta.
When windows 10 goes online the first time, it downloads crap like CandyCrush and Twitter. Search these forums for the tag windows 10 and you'll find my post about how to stop that from happening.
Does this help with bloatware? http://www.hwinfo.com/misc/RemoveW10Bloat.htm
I suppose, but I personally wouldn't do that - it is taking out way to much stuff.
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@Dashrender said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@LAH3385 Once you get the upgrade it converts your Win7 key to a Win 10. So you have to upgrade at that point since you are no longer licensed for win7
Well - that's sorta true.
Assuming you're upgrading a Windows 7 Pro legally licensed machine, you can legally use downgrade rights to install Windows 7 again.
So for your situation, my recommendation would be to copy from the ISO \sources\gatherosstate.exe to the desktop, run it as an Admin, then save the created XML file to a USB stick.
Now install a new HD into the system, remove the current one. Install Windows 10 from scratch. Once the system is installed and running copy the above saved XML to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\GenuineTicket.
Reboot, check if the system is activated. If it is, shut it down and put your windows 7 HD back into the system and continue working. You have now activated that hardware with MS. When you're ready in the future, you can just install windows 10 and it will auto activate.
I could have sworn I read somewhere that once you upgraded and converted the key that it would not activate win7 again, but I cant find it, so maybe I was just imagining it...
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@Dashrender said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@LAH3385 Once you get the upgrade it converts your Win7 key to a Win 10. So you have to upgrade at that point since you are no longer licensed for win7
Well - that's sorta true.
Assuming you're upgrading a Windows 7 Pro legally licensed machine, you can legally use downgrade rights to install Windows 7 again.
That's not downgrade rights.. You own both. You have an upgrade which "sits" on top of the full version. You have never needed downgrade rights to go back to a previous version from an upgrade.
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@Jason said:
@Dashrender said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@LAH3385 Once you get the upgrade it converts your Win7 key to a Win 10. So you have to upgrade at that point since you are no longer licensed for win7
Well - that's sorta true.
Assuming you're upgrading a Windows 7 Pro legally licensed machine, you can legally use downgrade rights to install Windows 7 again.
That's not downgrade rights.. You own both. You have an upgrade which "sits" on top of the full version. You have never needed downgrade rights to go back to a previous version from an upgrade.
That's an interesting way to look at it. Without reading the Windows 10 license I'm not sure if that's accurate or not.. but definitely makes sense. In either case, you do have the right to use Win7 Pro still, once you upgrade to Windows 10 Pro.
