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    • coliverC
      coliver @nadnerB
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      @nadnerB said:

      soooo, tl;dr.
      Asus should stick to motherboards and graphics cards. Everything else seems kind of second rate. I say that not having used an ROG laptop.

      They make some decent monitors too.

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      • Minion QueenM
        Minion Queen Banned
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        I like my Asus monitor it's pretty nice.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said:

          @Dashrender I wonder if the same account you're mentioning would still be effective with an OS like DD-WRT on these units....

          Also what models have you seen that Cox has control over? What kind of access do they have, what are they able to do? If they have access to the modem, what would stop them from accessing the router behind the modem?

          Cox has access to all cable modems attached to their network, regardless of vendor. What vendors have I seen? I've seen Netgear all in ones, Motorola and Toshiba.

          Of course the ISP (Cox) will have outside access to the router you install behind the cable modem, but hopefully your router/firewall device will stop them cold - just like it stops hackers getting into your network.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @NattNatt
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            @NattNatt said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @NattNatt said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @johnhooks said:

            I don't use Comcast equipment. I bought my own modem for like $70 and use that. Theirs sucked and you had to pay extra or some nonsense for bridging.

            I'm not sure about Comcast - but with Cox use theirs, use yours, doesn't matter, they have full control over the device. You give them a serial number, and there must be carrier level default username and passwords on it because Cox is who manages the thing.

            I would personally never use a cable modem/ADSL all in one router device. I just don't want the ISP inside my private network.

            So you'd recommend a separate router and modem at home too? Any recommendations other than the Unify stuff mentioned above (not sure how expensive/easy to get hold of they are in the UK?

            As a techie - absolutely I recommend them to be separate. For normal consumers who don't care - nah, they don't care so why should I?

            but would it work if I got a modem and simply put that direct behind the All-in-one thing the company sent? 🙂 I presume it would but not done much networking stuff on this level...

            Not a modem - a modem is what the ISP provides - you install a router/firewall behind the all-in-one thing the ISP provides.

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            • NattNattN
              NattNatt @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              @NattNatt said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @NattNatt said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @johnhooks said:

              I don't use Comcast equipment. I bought my own modem for like $70 and use that. Theirs sucked and you had to pay extra or some nonsense for bridging.

              I'm not sure about Comcast - but with Cox use theirs, use yours, doesn't matter, they have full control over the device. You give them a serial number, and there must be carrier level default username and passwords on it because Cox is who manages the thing.

              I would personally never use a cable modem/ADSL all in one router device. I just don't want the ISP inside my private network.

              So you'd recommend a separate router and modem at home too? Any recommendations other than the Unify stuff mentioned above (not sure how expensive/easy to get hold of they are in the UK?

              As a techie - absolutely I recommend them to be separate. For normal consumers who don't care - nah, they don't care so why should I?

              but would it work if I got a modem and simply put that direct behind the All-in-one thing the company sent? 🙂 I presume it would but not done much networking stuff on this level...

              Not a modem - a modem is what the ISP provides - you install a router/firewall behind the all-in-one thing the ISP provides.

              That's what I meant...Natt with no sleep or caffeine is a silly Natt....my bad 😞

              @Dashrender said:

              @NattNatt said:

              @DustinB3403 said:

              @Dashrender That seems insane that every Modem/ Router provider would be creating a custom account that the ISP could use to access a personally owned device..

              And (from the UK point of view) certainly a legal grey area at best...

              Is there a law saying you can't do this? or a TOS with the ISP that doesn't allow it? Wouldn't that same TOS prevent you from using a firewall on your computer itself?

              I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...

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              • nadnerBN
                nadnerB @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said:

                @nadnerB said:

                soooo, tl;dr.
                Asus should stick to motherboards and graphics cards. Everything else seems kind of second rate. I say that not having used an ROG laptop.

                They make some decent monitors too.

                The ones I've used look cheap but seem to be kind of average to low average

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said:

                  @nadnerB said:

                  soooo, tl;dr.
                  Asus should stick to motherboards and graphics cards. Everything else seems kind of second rate. I say that not having used an ROG laptop.

                  They make some decent monitors too.

                  True. I have one as well and it's pretty nice.

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                  • Minion QueenM
                    Minion Queen Banned
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                    I have a 27" ISP panel. It's not as nice as my LG or my Benq but it is still pretty decent.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @coliver
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                      @coliver said:

                      I think we need someone with experience to weigh in on how this works. From my knowledge they use a DHCP-esque system and do MAC reservations to set addresses. @PSX_Defector may have some inside knowledge though. Certainly TWC hasn't, at least to my knowledge, logged into the modem to set it up. They get the MAC address then plug it into the network.

                      That is correct - don't know about the MAC reservations part, but the rest is what I understand as well - but they, the ISP, can definitely get into the cable modem and tweak it to work better on their network. When you call for support, they can log into your modem and see it's link state, etc between your device (hopefully a router you control) and the cable modem.

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                      • nadnerBN
                        nadnerB @NattNatt
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                        @NattNatt said:

                        I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...

                        That's cause to release the Purple shirted eye stabber upon them IMO

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates
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                          Agh I lied. I have an Acer monitor. I don't know what I was thinking.

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                          • nadnerBN
                            nadnerB @stacksofplates
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                            @johnhooks said:

                            I have an Acer.

                            😐

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                            • NattNattN
                              NattNatt @nadnerB
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                              @nadnerB said:

                              @NattNatt said:

                              I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...

                              That's cause to release the Purple shirted eye stabber upon them IMO

                              Hah :') You backed the game on kickstarter..?

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @nadnerB
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                                @nadnerB said:

                                @johnhooks said:

                                Agh I lied. I have an Acer. I don't know what I was thinking.

                                😐

                                It's actually kind of nice. It's this one

                                http://www.game-debate.com/monitor/mon_pic.php?mon_id=986&monitor=ACER S235HLbii 23inch

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                                • nadnerBN
                                  nadnerB @NattNatt
                                  last edited by

                                  @NattNatt said:

                                  @nadnerB said:

                                  @NattNatt said:

                                  I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...

                                  That's cause to release the Purple shirted eye stabber upon them IMO

                                  Hah :') You backed the game on kickstarter..?

                                  Nope. Looks hilarious though.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @NattNatt
                                    last edited by

                                    @NattNatt said:

                                    I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...

                                    I'd have to guess that in the US, the companies put that into the TOS that they manage the cable modem, I would expect little difference for the UK.

                                    Heck, the government is allowed to audit the number of TVs you have in your house in the UK - talk about weird!

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                                    • nadnerBN
                                      nadnerB @stacksofplates
                                      last edited by

                                      @johnhooks said:

                                      @nadnerB said:

                                      @johnhooks said:

                                      Agh I lied. I have an Acer. I don't know what I was thinking.

                                      😐

                                      It's actually kind of nice. It's this one

                                      http://www.game-debate.com/monitor/mon_pic.php?mon_id=986&monitor=ACER S235HLbii 23inch

                                      That's the second weirdest monitor I've ever seen

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        I want a standing desk.
                                        rather, I want a convertible desk.

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                                        • NattNattN
                                          NattNatt @nadnerB
                                          last edited by

                                          @nadnerB said:

                                          @NattNatt said:

                                          @nadnerB said:

                                          @NattNatt said:

                                          I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...

                                          That's cause to release the Purple shirted eye stabber upon them IMO

                                          Hah :') You backed the game on kickstarter..?

                                          Nope. Looks hilarious though.

                                          I took a punt on this one, missed out on CAH, Exploding Kittens AND Secret Hitler...so thought I'd actually give this a shot lol...

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @NattNatt said:

                                          I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...

                                          I'd have to guess that in the US, the companies put that into the TOS that they manage the cable modem, I would expect little difference for the UK.

                                          Heck, the government is allowed to audit the number of TVs you have in your house in the UK - talk about weird!

                                          Hmmm, I'll have to look into it, but I'd be surprised if they'd be allowed to remotely manage a personal piece of kit in the UK unless they had a warrant etc...

                                          Huh? The TV's..?

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                                          • nadnerBN
                                            nadnerB @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            I want a standing desk.
                                            rather, I want a convertible desk.

                                            I'll have a convertible. Car or desk. I'm not fussy 😛

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