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MattSpeller

the name of the drug is Rimso
another name is DMSO

Whoops, there it is as a generic, I'm not sure what the quantity is as 250 units is not descriptive. $7.19 after discount.

Edit: screen caps removed as I felt weird posting them.

Dashrender

@MattSpeller said:

@Dashrender said:

the name of the drug is Rimso
another name is DMSO

Whoops, there it is as a generic, I'm not sure what the quantity is as 250 units is not descriptive. $7.19 after discount.

Edit: screen caps removed as I felt weird posting them.

Where is that?

MattSpeller

@Dashrender said:

@MattSpeller said:

@Dashrender said:

the name of the drug is Rimso
another name is DMSO

Whoops, there it is as a generic, I'm not sure what the quantity is as 250 units is not descriptive. $7.19 after discount.

Edit: screen caps removed as I felt weird posting them.

Where is that?

Not sure what you're referring to - the website is my health coverage from work showing what I'd pay for OTC/perscription meds.

scottalanmiller

@MattSpeller said:

Whoops, there it is as a generic

Only thing that should exist, really. The idea of brand name chemicals is problematic to begin with.

Dashrender

This whole problem is because of the drug companies and their demand for profit.

The drug came out and the drug company said - it's $600... Medicare says OK we'll pay $600 for say... 10 years...
during that 10 years Medicare discovers that the company only pays like $30 to make the product (I'm inventing numbers here)... so after the 10 years.. Medicare says enough is enough - drug company you've made enough money on this product we will now only pay $200. Doctors who don't want to lose $400 on this medicine stop prescribing it. after some undetermined amount of time, the drug company goes.. uh hey, why isn't anyone buying rimso anymore? OHHH because medicare is only paying $200 - ok we'll lower our price to $180 - then sales start again. etc etc over time until the consumer is probably paying only 5% over cost or something - think $5 generics.

But what's worse (or at least just as bad) is when the drug company can change something stupid like the propellant in a drug and start the whole process all over again.

This happened to Alupent inhalers. They had to move away from CFC propellants. Before the move, the drug was $5 an inhaler, now it's at the top price rank again - I think I pay full price at $55 a unit.

stacksofplates

@Dashrender said:

Medicare discovers that the company only pays like $30 to make the product

Does that include the millions or even billions you have to pay for FDA bribes (I mean trials)?

Minion Queen

@Dashrender said:

This whole problem is because of the drug companies and their demand for profit.

The drug came out and the drug company said - it's $600... Medicare says OK we'll pay $600 for say... 10 years...
during that 10 years Medicare discovers that the company only pays like $30 to make the product (I'm inventing numbers here)... so after the 10 years.. Medicare says enough is enough - drug company you've made enough money on this product we will now only pay $200. Doctors who don't want to lose $400 on this medicine stop prescribing it. after some undetermined amount of time, the drug company goes.. uh hey, why isn't anyone buying rimso anymore? OHHH because medicare is only paying $200 - ok we'll lower our price to $180 - then sales start again. etc etc over time until the consumer is probably paying only 5% over cost or something - think $5 generics.

But what's worse (or at least just as bad) is when the drug company can change something stupid like the propellant in a drug and start the whole process all over again.

This happened to Alupent inhalers. They had to move away from CFC propellants. Before the move, the drug was $5 an inhaler, now it's at the top price rank again - I think I pay full price at $55 a unit.

Yeah my inhaler went from $40 to $460

Dashrender

@johnhooks said:

@Dashrender said:

Medicare discovers that the company only pays like $30 to make the product

Does that include the millions or even billions you have to pay for FDA bribes (I mean trials)?

You mean more doctors who just line their own pockets?

Dashrender

@Minion-Queen said:

Yeah my inhaler went from $40 to $460

I'm sure mine was only $55 because of an in place insurance agreement.

stacksofplates

@Dashrender said:

@johnhooks said:

@Dashrender said:

Medicare discovers that the company only pays like $30 to make the product

Does that include the millions or even billions you have to pay for FDA bribes (I mean trials)?

You mean more doctors who just line their own pockets?

No the bureaucrats who actually make the decisions in the FDA.

Dashrender

@johnhooks said:

@Dashrender said:

@johnhooks said:

@Dashrender said:

Medicare discovers that the company only pays like $30 to make the product

Does that include the millions or even billions you have to pay for FDA bribes (I mean trials)?

You mean more doctors who just line their own pockets?

No the bureaucrats who actually make the decisions in the FDA.

The FDA is made up of doctors though..that's why I said line their pockets/.

stacksofplates

@Dashrender said:

@johnhooks said:

@Dashrender said:

@johnhooks said:

@Dashrender said:

Medicare discovers that the company only pays like $30 to make the product

Does that include the millions or even billions you have to pay for FDA bribes (I mean trials)?

You mean more doctors who just line their own pockets?

No the bureaucrats who actually make the decisions in the FDA.

The FDA is made up of doctors though..that's why I said line their pockets/.

The Commissioner is appointed by the President. Consumer Safety Officers do the investigations and inspections.

Two of the guys from the big scandal in 89 were just chemists, but are still public employees (so it doesn't matter whether they are an MD or not).