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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
If they don't have existing Windows experience then ANY logic for using Windows now has to evaporate (except for maybe gaming.) But even coming from Windows, Mint is generally easier.
Apparently they have been using Windows for years, but through AOL or something.
I think a good pop-up blocker as @RojoLoco suggested would be key here.
And education, as I mentioned.
After reading that, all I could think of was....
All you can do is educate, educate, educate.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Are you comparing only thee paid library from one and the free from the other?
Yes, because the end goal is to get the music I want, and I am willing to pay for it.
I wish Amazon had a paid service similar to Apple Music/Google Play/Rhapsody.
It would be my new love.
but if you were willing ot pay for it, Amazon's service is so much bigger than you are looking at.
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@Dashrender said:
I'm not sure in either case you are actually uploading anything - from what I read, they see what song it it you are uploading and then just add the in cloud version to your account.. now you can stream it anytime you want.
Right. Though it appears on Google Play it has been actually uploading my stuff, though I can't tell.
For example, I had an older MP3 album in 128bitrate. It has that version in my library.
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@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
I didn't know you could also upload your stuff to Amazon Music.
Since I buy all my stuff from there, that might make the most sense for me. I've recently started uploading everything to Google Play.
I'm not sure in either case you are actually uploading anything - from what I read, they see what song it it you are uploading and then just add the in cloud version to your account.. now you can stream it anytime you want.
That's just dedupe, you can upload yourself singing a song if you want. There is no way that they already have that there.
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Again the biggest issue people who have been doing it for any amount of time is - Moving.
People don't want to move to something new, especially if they have to somehow move their old collection of owned stuff to a new service.
Here's a great example.
I buy all of my movies today through Vudu. If Vudu goes tits up, I'm screwed.If another service that's better than Vudu comes along, I'll be forced to either use two service or rebuy all of my movies on the new service (who wants to do that?).
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@scottalanmiller said:
but if you were willing ot pay for it, Amazon's service is so much bigger than you are looking at.
Amazon has a full streaming service? That would be exactly what I was looking for.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
but if you were willing ot pay for it, Amazon's service is so much bigger than you are looking at.
Amazon has a full streaming service? That would be exactly what I was looking for.
Yes, it is free with Prime. Amazon has ALWAYS had streaming service since their first music system released. That's been part of what they have done from the beginning.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
I didn't know you could also upload your stuff to Amazon Music.
Since I buy all my stuff from there, that might make the most sense for me. I've recently started uploading everything to Google Play.
I'm not sure in either case you are actually uploading anything - from what I read, they see what song it it you are uploading and then just add the in cloud version to your account.. now you can stream it anytime you want.
That's just dedupe, you can upload yourself singing a song if you want. There is no way that they already have that there.
True enough, but it's better than dedup.. if you have a crappy rip you did on your own machine and upload that, they replace it with the much better version they keep in the cloud.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
I didn't know you could also upload your stuff to Amazon Music.
Since I buy all my stuff from there, that might make the most sense for me. I've recently started uploading everything to Google Play.
I'm not sure in either case you are actually uploading anything - from what I read, they see what song it it you are uploading and then just add the in cloud version to your account.. now you can stream it anytime you want.
That's just dedupe, you can upload yourself singing a song if you want. There is no way that they already have that there.
True enough, but it's better than dedup.. if you have a crappy rip you did on your own machine and upload that, they replace it with the much better version they keep in the cloud.
Ah, I see. Interesting.
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@Dashrender said:
Again the biggest issue people who have been doing it for any amount of time is - Moving.
People don't want to move to something new, especially if they have to somehow move their old collection of owned stuff to a new service.
Here's a great example.
I buy all of my movies today through Vudu. If Vudu goes tits up, I'm screwed.If another service that's better than Vudu comes along, I'll be forced to either use two service or rebuy all of my movies on the new service (who wants to do that?).
I have 75% of my stuff in iTunes. It's all DRM, but there.
I also have stuff in Google Play (can't ever resist all the free albums they give away) and Amazon.
Trying to move that stuff around and keep it optimized makes sense, but it's a PITA.
I also don't like having a backup of the music. I figure once I upload it to Google Play or Amazon, I can delete it from the local machine, right?
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@Dashrender said:
True enough, but it's better than dedup.. if you have a crappy rip you did on your own machine and upload that, they replace it with the much better version they keep in the cloud.
Which service?
I have not seen that with Google Play. Which is annoying.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
but if you were willing ot pay for it, Amazon's service is so much bigger than you are looking at.
Amazon has a full streaming service? That would be exactly what I was looking for.
Yes, it is free with Prime. Amazon has ALWAYS had streaming service since their first music system released. That's been part of what they have done from the beginning.
That I didn't know.
I don't know if Amazon has true family sharing, or if you have to add the master account to all of the devices that you want to have access to the streaming service.
Google streaming now has a family plan for $15/month for 6 users, there is a master account, and that account can add 5 more child accounts that gain access to the streaming.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Yes, it is free with Prime. Amazon has ALWAYS had streaming service since their first music system released. That's been part of what they have done from the beginning.
But MOST of the music I want to listen to is NOT on there. As I said, they have a much, much smaller library.
I looked at it when you suggested it before, and none of the stuff I was listening to that day was on Amazon.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
True enough, but it's better than dedup.. if you have a crappy rip you did on your own machine and upload that, they replace it with the much better version they keep in the cloud.
Which service?
I have not seen that with Google Play. Which is annoying.
Google Play is where I read about that happening specifically.
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@Dashrender said:
Which service?
I have not seen that with Google Play. Which is annoying.
Google Play is where I read about that happening specifically.
So in theory, if I upload a 128bit MP3, it should let me download a higher quality version of it?
Also, they limit your downloads to 2. I think you can put their software on your machine to get around that, but I am not sure yet.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yes, it is free with Prime. Amazon has ALWAYS had streaming service since their first music system released. That's been part of what they have done from the beginning.
But MOST of the music I want to listen to is NOT on there. As I said, they have a much, much smaller library.
I looked at it when you suggested it before, and none of the stuff I was listening to that day was on Amazon.
And this is the new battle ground for recording studios.... make private deals with limited streaming services - if you want to listen to artist XYZ, you MUST use Apple streaming, etc.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Which service?
I have not seen that with Google Play. Which is annoying.
Google Play is where I read about that happening specifically.
So in theory, if I upload a 128bit MP3, it should let me download a higher quality version of it?
Also, they limit your downloads to 2. I think you can put their software on your machine to get around that, but I am not sure yet.
Yes, that is what I read anyway.
Why are you downloading it? Are you doing offline listening that much? I guess if you are, then you will have to manage a local store if you are bouncing around music offline that much.
I understand the limiting of number of downloads.. because the downloads are DRM free. You could have 10K songs in your library.. go to friends house, log into your account and download them all and leave them on his computer, and log out of your account.. now they have stolen music.
but you could do that with just the 2 downloads too.. but they are trying to stem bleeding, but it's just stupid.
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Hmm, did a little Googling.
It appears they STREAM the file to you at 320, but when you download it back to you machine, they give you back the same crappy version. Interesting.
There is also a lot of chatter about them matching the wrong file (censored vs uncensored, for example) and some of the companies putting digital watermarks in the Google versions.
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@BRRABill said:
Hmm, did a little Googling.
It appears they STREAM the file to you at 320, but when you download it back to you machine, they give you back the same crappy version. Interesting.
There is also a lot of chatter about them matching the wrong file (censored vs uncensored, for example) and some of the companies putting digital watermarks in the Google versions.
that's interesting, that implies that they really do upload and keep the crappy version you upload... seems like a waste of storage.
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@Dashrender said:
that's interesting, that implies that they really do upload and keep the crappy version you upload... seems like a waste of storage.
The article also said a version "similar" to what you uploaded. So perhaps not your actual version.
I wonder what it would do if you had pops or anything in your original MP3.
