Non-IT News Thread
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@Dashrender said:
what could/should be done so these people can stay there instead of fleeing?
Lets look at historical context...
What could we have done for the Jews to let them stay in Germany during World War II? Clearly winning the war in the first year would likely have fixed nearly all of that. But we are well into the "concentration camp" era to be comparative. Once things have gone that far, I can't think of any historical conflict where even with hindsight we would have a clear means of fixing something like this.
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@Dashrender said:
We don't have the stomach as a country to win the war!
Damn true. I think that's probably a good thing.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@MattSpeller said:
@Dashrender well, the whole country is blown apart and littered with weapons so.... short of a massive ground invasion I don't see them just going home.
Right, because Korea and Vietnam showed us that ground invasions will improve things
What we know is that the US is very bad at this kind of warfare and is very likely to lose that war.We don't have the stomach as a country to win the war!
And an army marches on its stomach
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
So let's switch topics... What should be done in Syria and other countries where ISIS is doing it's badness? what could/should be done so these people can stay there instead of fleeing?
History suggests that staying there isn't an option. Homes are gone, food supply is gone, bombs are falling, no hospitals, no schools, no way to carry on business or get life's necessities... no hope. If we could magically win the war, stabilize things and rebuild their country overnight it would start to help. Short of that, there isn't much to be done. They need places to live, a means to live.
It's a great idea, but I can't think of any hope short of a massive evacuation.
So what? everyone who wants to leave just leaves and the country of Syria just basically ceases to exist? save for a possible few million fanatics?
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Somewhere else Scott mentioned integration and someone else mentioned that that didn't want to see these refugees bringing their religion to their settlement areas. I hear stories of neighborhoods in the UK where the police don't go because it's basically been over ridden by sharia law.
Maybe the stories aren't true. But the definitely fuel fear and a lack of desire to allow Muslims and their faith into their areas.
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@Dashrender said:
So what? everyone who wants to leave just leaves and the country of Syria just basically ceases to exist? save for a possible few million fanatics?
What's the other option in the face of genocide?
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@Dashrender said:
But the definitely fuel fear and a lack of desire to allow Muslims and their faith into their areas.
What aspect of their faith would be cause for concern? I have Muslim friends, nothing about them is scary in the least.
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@Dashrender said:
Somewhere else Scott mentioned integration and someone else mentioned that that didn't want to see these refugees bringing their religion to their settlement areas. I hear stories of neighborhoods in the UK where the police don't go because it's basically been over ridden by sharia law.
That's so far fetched there is no way to dispute it. Someone actually told you that parts of the UK have been lost to ISIS?
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@scottalanmiller I think @Dashrender meant a group of particularly odoriferous bunch of wankers like below
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Chipotle Shares Down 12% on Link to e.coli Outbreak in Four States
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Russia Begins to Cripple IS Oil Supply
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34882503
18 Missiles on Friday and 69 planes operating in the theatre. Russian involvement in Syria is stepping up. Additionally, Putin has put a $50m USD bounty out for the terrorists that bombed a Russian airliner recently.
http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/130AF/production/_86799977_ruscruisemap.jpg
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Western New York: National Weather Service Issues Lake Effect Snow Watch for Region
The weather service said some areas could see up to a foot of snow, with areas east of Lakes Erie and Ontario hit the hardest. The watch is in effect from early Sunday morning to Monday.
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Salem, Utah: School Apologizes for Assigning Homework to Make Islamic State Group Poster
Ninth-graders at Salem Junior High School were told to make a recruitment or propaganda poster for the terrorist group by a first-year teacher. Parents complained and the assignment was canceled.
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Mississippi Decides Senate Seat by Drawing Straws
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34883294
Democracy is serious stuff in Mississippi.
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Apple Store: Man Arrested After Waving Samurai Sword at New York City Flagship Location
The incident took place Friday afternoon at the store on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan. A 30-year-old man was arrested and charged with criminal possession of a weapon and menacing.
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@mlnews said:
Apple Store: Man Arrested After Waving Samurai Sword at New York City Flagship Location
The incident took place Friday afternoon at the store on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan. A 30-year-old man was arrested and charged with criminal possession of a weapon and menacing.
This is everything that is wrong with the world today. How the heck can we possibly hope to solve any of the world's problems when even a single media outlet failed to run the headline containing the words Fruit Ninja?
I despair for humanity.
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Columbus, Ohio: Neighbor Shoots, Kills 7-Year-Old Boy and His Parents Inside Their Home, Police Say
Police said Barry Kirk, 50, killed John Anderson II, 31, Christina, 30, and Landon, 7, in their home Monday. Their daughter, Makyleigh, 12, was hospitalized. Kirk was later shot and killed by police.
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Los Angeles: DNA Test Clears Man of 3 Sexual Assault Charges After Serving 16 Years in Prison
A Los Angeles judge overturned Luis Lorenzo Vargas' 1999 assault conviction Monday after DNA evidence linked to a suspect known as the "teardrop rapist." The case had relied on eyewitnesses.
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Viewmont Mall: Shots Fired in Parking Lot of Scranton, Penn., Mall, Police Say
The shots were fired from a blue sports car toward a minivan on Monday evening, police said. Authorities have asked anyone with information about the incident to come forward.
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Minneapolis: 5 Hospitalized After Shooting Near Black Lives Matter Camp Outside of Police Station
The shooting took place outside the 4th Precinct Tuesday. The injuries were not life-threatening. Witnesses said the assailants were white supremacists. Police are looking for three suspects.
