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      LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @LAH3385 said:

      Thanks SAM. I'll take minutes over hours any day.

      Generally not minutes, spin ups are extremely fast. Often just a couple seconds so generally people don't even notice.

      Do you recommend getting SSD for OS partition? I'm thinking xByte Edge 240GB in RAID1. I am also submitting proposal to increase HDD to 6 to reduce bottleneck. .

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        scottalanmiller @LAH3385
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        @LAH3385 said:

        Do you recommend getting SSD for OS partition?

        No, the opposite. Every penny invested in the "OS" storage is wasted. You don't care about capacity or speed there. Best practice is to install to SD card or USB stick when possible (Hyper-V only installs) or to the main array itself, never split off.

        If you were to split it off, which you never would, it would go on the cheapest, smallest, slowest SATA drives that you can get (WD Red SATA.)

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          LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @LAH3385 said:

          Do you recommend getting SSD for OS partition?

          No, the opposite. Every penny invested in the "OS" storage is wasted. You don't care about capacity or speed there. Best practice is to install to SD card or USB stick when possible (Hyper-V only installs) or to the main array itself, never split off.

          If you were to split it off, which you never would, it would go on the cheapest, smallest, slowest SATA drives that you can get (WD Red SATA.)

          The server came equiped dual 8GB SD Card. Is it enough for both vSan and Hyper-V core?

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            LAH3385
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            If I have 4TB of storage capacity using all available HDD slots.. is there a way to increase the capacity down the road?

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              mlnews @LAH3385
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              @LAH3385 said:

              The server came equiped dual 8GB SD Card. Is it enough for both vSan and Hyper-V core?

              I think so but I am not sure of the exact size needed.

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                scottalanmiller @LAH3385
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                @LAH3385 said:

                If I have 4TB of storage capacity using all available HDD slots.. is there a way to increase the capacity down the road?

                If you have filled the box, no there isn't a super easy way to make it bigger. You can always add capacity through bigger drives, external arrays, bigger server - in what way are you thinking?

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                  JaredBusch @mlnews
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                  @mlnews said:

                  @LAH3385 said:

                  The server came equiped dual 8GB SD Card. Is it enough for both vSan and Hyper-V core?

                  I think so but I am not sure of the exact size needed.

                  That is not big enough for Hyper-V, I believe that they wanted 32 for the SD/USB. I would have to look again.

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                    LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @LAH3385 said:

                    If I have 4TB of storage capacity using all available HDD slots.. is there a way to increase the capacity down the road?

                    If you have filled the box, no there isn't a super easy way to make it bigger. You can always add capacity through bigger drives, external arrays, bigger server - in what way are you thinking?

                    Right now we are about 1.5TB in. So in 5 years we may hit the 4TB mark. Just want to make sure that I have a good understanding on this.

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                      scottalanmiller @LAH3385
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                      @LAH3385 said:

                      Right now we are about 1.5TB in. So in 5 years we may hit the 4TB mark. Just want to make sure that I have a good understanding on this.

                      You can always do a one time "grow" by taking a backup and moving to bigger drives. Even today you can hit 8TB with a single drive pair. So you have tons of head room.

                      And a few years from now you would likely replace the server, not increase storage. Growing storage always sounds better than the reality is when the time comes.

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                        LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller Good point.

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                          LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @LAH3385 said:

                          Do you recommend getting SSD for OS partition?

                          No, the opposite. Every penny invested in the "OS" storage is wasted. You don't care about capacity or speed there. Best practice is to install to SD card or USB stick when possible (Hyper-V only installs) or to the main array itself, never split off.

                          If you were to split it off, which you never would, it would go on the cheapest, smallest, slowest SATA drives that you can get (WD Red SATA.)

                          Is there any gain or loss if I install Hyper-V server on the main array?
                          SD Card is not an option for us since it only has 8GB. So we will be getting low profile USB instead.

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                            scottalanmiller @LAH3385
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                            @LAH3385 said:

                            SD Card is not an option for us since it only has 8GB. So we will be getting low profile USB instead.

                            Nothing wrong with that.

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                              scottalanmiller
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                              Or, you know, put in the right sized SD cards. That it came with 8GB isn't a factor.

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                                scottalanmiller @LAH3385
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                                @LAH3385 said:

                                Is there any gain or loss if I install Hyper-V server on the main array?

                                Not from a performance perspective. Uses a small amount of storage and makes the system a little less flexible.

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                                  LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Or, you know, put in the right sized SD cards. That it came with 8GB isn't a factor.

                                  will this do?
                                  http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Class-UHS-1-Memory-SF32UY2/dp/B00X13ZZGM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1447955229&sr=8-3&keywords=32gb+sd+card+class+10

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch
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                                    Yup, it is 32GB.

                                    http://www.altaro.com/hyper-v/hyper-vs-actual-hardware-requirements/

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                                      LAH3385
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                                      Thank you all

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                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @LAH3385 said:

                                        Right now we are about 1.5TB in. So in 5 years we may hit the 4TB mark. Just want to make sure that I have a good understanding on this.

                                        You can always do a one time "grow" by taking a backup and moving to bigger drives. Even today you can hit 8TB with a single drive pair. So you have tons of head room.

                                        And a few years from now you would likely replace the server, not increase storage. Growing storage always sounds better than the reality is when the time comes.

                                        You can say that again.

                                        I'm currently using around 1.2 TB on my VM host - but I've been looking at actual real business use data - it's around 50 GB. The rest are things like WSUS, and the tons of ISOs, drivers, system images, etc that I have.

                                        I'm in the process of pulling all of that stuff out of my VM setup and into a 2 drive NAS.

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                                        • KOOLERK
                                          KOOLER Vendor @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Adding @KOOLER and @StarWind_Software

                                          For lab use it's possible to chunk out one physical LAN with vLANs and make a pseudo-supported config. Something you absolutely don't want to do in production! Later this year we'll release dynamic quorum thing so it would be possible to use single LAN between hosts.

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                                          • KOOLERK
                                            KOOLER Vendor @LAH3385
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                                            @LAH3385 said:

                                            So the question is in the title.. Can I use Starwind with Hyper-v 2012 R2 core? The core edition is command line base and doesn't has any GUI so I don't know how to manage Starwind nor install it. What's your thought on this?

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                                            You don't install GUI on Core / free Hyper-V / Nano you do only server app (it will also install set of drivers but that's still no GUI thing). GUI will run on a separate mgmt box.

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