Should I take the same money to go back to the same job?
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@JaredBusch said:
As Scott stated, you would be moving backwards career wise and will never be able to get ahead at this new old company.
This part is important and may not be clear - once a company knows that you are desperate and willing to earn less year over year, they will keep pressuring you to earn less. They are taking advantage of you and will not stop doing so sometime in the future - that realistically does not happen. This is a slippery slope situation that you would only do if you were truly desperate.
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@Joy said:
@Dashrender said:
And the old company won't offer more than you were making before? Yeah I can't see making that move back.
Yes, they wont
They you should literally laugh at them and slam down the phone telling them to never disrespect you so much again.
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@Joy said:
It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.
3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?
Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?
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Slamming the phone is figurative for those of us from the phone and cradle era. Do not slap your iPhone around.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Slamming the phone is figurative for those of us from the phone and cradle era. Do not slap your iPhone around.
LOL - I can see it now.. slam iphone = sad face and lost extra money
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@scottalanmiller said:
Slamming the phone is figurative for those of us from the phone and cradle era. Do not slap your iPhone around.
Gods, I miss that pressure release at times too.
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They need a "slam the phone" button that makes a slamming sound on the other end and automatically disconnects.
It could be the "hang up with prejudice" button or something.
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Going back to the old job seems like a clearly bad idea. There is no incentive for you to consider it, it would seem.
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@JaredBusch said:
@Joy said:
It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.
3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?
Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?
6 hours commute of total
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@Joy said:
@JaredBusch said:
@Joy said:
It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.
3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?
Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?
6 hours commute of total
You do that every day?
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Joy -
I think one what to work this out if you want ot just look at numbers is to factor every hour from when you close and lock your door heading to work and when you return to that door again at the endo f the day.
A three hour journey one way to the office is not a great way to start your day. Nor is it a good way to end it. Your 8 hour work day becomes a 14 hour day. Even if you are making more with the new company - you could be making less overall with just the commute.
Factor in your expenses and it just compounds that.
Now having said that What makes you happy? So often we make a choice about work solely based on money... But happiness trumps money.
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@Dashrender said:
@Joy said:
@JaredBusch said:
@Joy said:
It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.
3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?
Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?
6 hours commute of total
You do that every day?
Sorry i was referring for the Old apartment that i been lived before in the province.
right now the commute should be 5 to 10 mins only but sometimes it will take 30 t0 45 mins due to traffic -
@gjacobse said:
Joy -
I think one what to work this out if you want ot just look at numbers is to factor every hour from when you close and lock your door heading to work and when you return to that door again at the endo f the day.
A three hour journey one way to the office is not a great way to start your day. Nor is it a good way to end it. Your 8 hour work day becomes a 14 hour day. Even if you are making more with the new company - you could be making less overall with just the commute.
Factor in your expenses and it just compounds that.
Now having said that What makes you happy? So often we make a choice about work solely based on money... But happiness trumps money.
Yes , I tried to do it first. and I'm always tired of my commute so i decided to look for bed space in the City.
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@Dashrender said:
@Joy said:
@JaredBusch said:
@Joy said:
It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.
3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?
Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?
6 hours commute of total
You do that every day?
That was before i decided to look for bed space so that i don't need to go home everyday
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@scottalanmiller said:
They need a "slam the phone" button that makes a slamming sound on the other end and automatically disconnects.
It could be the "hang up with prejudice" button or something.
Guys, I can't really totally disconnect from them.. They are good people
I mean i started to grow up with them, they trust me to handle everything given that I'm Zero knowledge when i worked for them
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@Joy said:
Guys, I can't really totally disconnect from them.. They are good people
I mean i started to grow up with them, they trust me to handle everything given that I'm Zero knowledge when i worked for themBut they've made it clear that they do not feel the same way towards you. They have made a point of telling you that you are worth less to them now than you were back then. They are completely insulting.
They are trying to use you and you should walk away from that situation. This is your career, your life. Don't throw it away as a "favor" to people who don't respect or care about you.
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@Joy said:
Guys, I can't really totally disconnect from them.. They are good people
Not in a career or job perspective to you. You are confusing which factors apply to job decisions.
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Have beers with them, go to karaoke... don't work for them until they decide you are worth treating as a professional.
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@Joy said:
Sorry i was referring for the Old apartment that i been lived before in the province.
right now the commute should be 5 to 10 mins only but sometimes it will take 30 t0 45 mins due to trafficOk, now this is more clear.
You could commute from home and have lower living expenses, but that is 3 hours one way.
You have opted for bed space knowing it is higher living expenses, but much closer to work with only 15 minutes of commute time.So this part of things is how much does the higher cost of living affect your goals for income?
Determine that and then you will be able to begin to determine how much more they would be required to offer you in order for you to take a job again with your prior employer.
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I agree with Jarad.
You don't have to be paid as much as you are being paid at the city job to consider taking the province job. But using simple numbers.. let's say you make 100 more a week in the city job, but it costs you 30 in rent more for the city job. In that case you're actually only making 70 more than the old job. Plus there is value in the fact that you'll be at home every night, and not just on weekends.
