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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      yes, but your actual code, don't type a bunch of x's into google.

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      • IT-ADMINI
        IT-ADMIN
        last edited by

        hhhhhh, when i first type the first letter google bring the rest of the key, when i see the website having my key, i found that so many website share that damn key

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN
          last edited by

          what do you think guys ??

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            Yeah, if the machine won't automatically re authenticate, you're out of luck.

            but you should still try.

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            • IT-ADMINI
              IT-ADMIN
              last edited by

              summary: i will P2V, shutdown the P, move the V to a hypervisor, start the VM, in this stage 2 possible situation can occur :
              1- the VM reauthorize itself automatically
              2- enter the key (which was retrieved from the P) and submit it (the activation can succeed or fail)
              in case of activation fail, delete the V, start the P and forget about virtualization

              i'm right with this summary ????

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                Looks good to me.. though what do you mean move the V to the hypervisor? Normally the P2V tools do that for you, at least they do with ESXi, don't know about Hyper-V or XenServer

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Looks good to me.. though what do you mean move the V to the hypervisor? Normally the P2V tools do that for you, at least they do with ESXi, don't know about Hyper-V or XenServer

                  i mean by that after virtualizing the P, it will gave me a VM, then i will import the VM to my Xenserver
                  as far as i'm concerned VMware vCenter Converter who perform the P2V, is there any other tool that import the VM directly from the P to XenServer ??

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    You can't use VMWare's tool to create the VM. You have to use Xen's tool to create the image.

                    @DustinB3403 - Help!

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN
                      last edited by

                      really, i though all VM has the same extension and can be imported into all hypervisors no matter how they were P2V,
                      @scottalanmiller ,@DustinB3403 , @JaredBusch help ...lol

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        it looks like our IT pros having a rest
                        enjoy

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          So with XenServer (and specifically NAUBackup) the files that are created are VM_Name.xva which are specific to Xen.

                          The other hypervisors I'm uncertain of what they create.

                          Sorry I can't be more help.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            Can you explain the P2V process for XenServer?

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              Can you explain the P2V process for XenServer?

                              Well its not P2V for XenServer.

                              It's P2V for what ever server OS your using.

                              We've used and had success with VMWare's P2V tool to an open format. Which is usable on XenServer.

                              We didn't have much luck with XenServers P2V tool on XenServer oddly. Generally the recommendation is to just build a new VM server, reinstall your applications, and move any required files onto it.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                Sure, but it's likely @IT-ADMIN can't do that because of his licensing issue. So doing an actual P2V is kinda important here.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  The P2V process is dependent on the OS he's using.

                                  I'd recommend trying VMWare's P2V Tool first to build an .OVA and import that into XenServer. (Or whatever his hypervisor is)

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                                  • IT-ADMINI
                                    IT-ADMIN
                                    last edited by

                                    why there is such limitation, is it because i'm using xenserver ??
                                    what about using Hyper-v or ESXI, does the P2V would be easier ???

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
                                      last edited by DustinB3403

                                      OVA files are an open-format.

                                      Meaning every Hypervisor should support importing them into your Hypervisor.

                                      The backup tool I use, creates a backup file for the type of Hypervisor I'm using. Which is XenServer.

                                      So it's much simpler to import a file that is designed for that system( .XVA), rather than a generic one (.OVA) when importing into XenServer.

                                      Does it make sense?

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                                      • IT-ADMINI
                                        IT-ADMIN @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        OVA files are an open-format.

                                        Meaning every Hypervisor should support importing them into your Hypervisor.

                                        The backup tool I use, creates a backup file for the type of Hypervisor I'm using. Which is XenServer.

                                        So it's much simpler to import a file that is designed for that system( .XVA), rather than a generic one (.OVA) when importing into XenServer.

                                        Does it make sense?

                                        it make sense for me,
                                        so .OVA is designed to be imported into EXSI not XenServer, isn't it ??

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @IT-ADMIN
                                          last edited by

                                          @IT-ADMIN No that's not correct.

                                          Described here
                                          is the description:

                                          An OVF is a collection of items in a single folder. Most commonly this is a description file (.ovf) a manifest file (.mf), and virtual machine state files (*.vhd or *.vmdk)

                                          An OVA is a single file. The OVA is the OVF folder contents all zipped into a single file. The purpose of the OVA is when you want to take an OVF and share it, or give it as a download. The OVA needs to be opened into the OVF before it can be consumed.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            OK, I think - so did @DustinB3403 install Xen or XenServer?

                                            XenServer is a Citrix branding of the XCP distro of Xen.

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