Wireless point to point through glass
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I used Netgear equipment to do a wireless bridge between two of the biggest hospitals in DC around 2001. Worked great.
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@Jason said:
@Dashrender said:
There is line of site between the houses, I just need to make sure there aren't any trees I forgot about.
If you can wait til summer to do the install then you'll know
LOL, gee, thanks. I'm guessing if there is a tree with branches when I look out the window, then I'd know too.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
It's through a grass area, but yeah, I'll need to make sure there aren't other possible obstructions.
Glass is like open air to the wifi. 200ft is nothing.
Unless it has some of that Newer UV coating stuff "Low E" on it, it can reflect the RF a bit.
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@Jason said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
It's through a grass area, but yeah, I'll need to make sure there aren't other possible obstructions.
Glass is like open air to the wifi. 200ft is nothing.
Unless it has some of that Newer UV coating stuff "Low E" on it, it can reflect the RF a bit.
True, good point.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I used Netgear equipment to do a wireless bridge between two of the biggest hospitals in DC around 2001. Worked great.
Were you close to windows?
Glass isn't always RF transparent. I did some reading after posting this, and sometimes it can cause some pretty big issues. Though that reading was revolving around point to point connection devices.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
It's through a grass area, but yeah, I'll need to make sure there aren't other possible obstructions.
Glass is like open air to the wifi. 200ft is nothing.
We've got quite a few leaded glass windows in our house. They don't seem to allow signal to go through them very well. Just from a little testing I've done.
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Or you know.... bury a CAT 6e cable in a piece of pcv and be done with it.
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@DustinB3403 said:
Or you know.... bury a CAT 6e cable in a piece of pcv and be done with it.
If I remember right (I probably am not) they do make direct bury CAT 6 (Maybe CAT 7?). We looked into it for our manufacturing facility at our last job.
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@coliver said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Or you know.... bury a CAT 6e cable in a piece of pcv and be done with it.
If I remember right (I probably am not) they do make direct bury CAT 6 (Maybe CAT 7?). We looked into it for our manufacturing facility at our last job.
CAT 7 is just more fragile, not for burying. Each higher number has a different wind characteristic, not different physical abilities like plenum.
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The nice thing about just burying a line for a personal project like this is that it doesn't have to be very deep. 1-6 inches. A hand held spade would easily do the job.
It might take just as long to bury as it would to get a point to point up and running.
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@coliver said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Or you know.... bury a CAT 6e cable in a piece of pcv and be done with it.
If I remember right (I probably am not) they do make direct bury CAT 6 (Maybe CAT 7?). We looked into it for our manufacturing facility at our last job.
Yep they make it. Not really a good idea between two buildings with different power services though as your ground potentials may be off (shock hazzard) and it's another path for surges and lightening. Multi-Mode Fiber is pretty cheap though.
You'd also need an easement if it crosses a property line.
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@Jason said:
If I remember right (I probably am not) they do make direct bury CAT 6 (Maybe CAT 7?). We looked into it for our manufacturing facility at our last job.
Yep they make it. Not really a good idea between two buildings with different power services though as your ground potentials may be off (shock hazzard) and it's another path for surges and lightening. Multi-Mode Fiber is pretty cheap though.
You'd also need an easement if it crosses a property line.
I'm definitely concerned about the ground potential differences. I'd guess they are on the same electrical grid since the house are back to back but that is no guarantee.
Fiber - yeah, that would be entirely beyond the dollar cost here - I'd not only need fiber to run underground, but a switch on each side to terminate it, and I've never terminated fiber before so I don't have the tools, etc. The costs would spin out of control and desired range.
an easement - sure if I cared about being legal, but I don't, not for this project. Clearly I'd be crossing property lines, I'm going from one house to another. Its rare that two house would ever been on the same property.
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@Dashrender said:
I'm definitely concerned about the ground potential differences. I'd guess they are on the same electrical grid since the house are back to back but that is no guarantee.
Ground doesn't come from the grid. Your ground reference is at on your own ground rod.
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Fiber switches are super cheap compared to a lot of things. other than issues terminating the fiber, I'd think that that was a pretty cost-controlled way to go with the best reliability and throughput and the most likely to last a really, really long time withing needing to invest again.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Fiber switches are super cheap compared to a lot of things. other than issues terminating the fiber, I'd think that that was a pretty cost-controlled way to go with the best reliability and throughput and the most likely to last a really, really long time withing needing to invest again.
And you have either 6 or 12 stands in one run.
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What are you considering super cheap?
Looks like I can get a fiber to copper converter for around $60
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003AVRLZI?keywords=fiber switch&qid=1445868692&ref_=sr_1_3&sr=8-3The buried cable would run at least $300, then I'd need to hire someone to terminate the runs.
Grand total of not less thand $500.
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dude, go with your wireless bridge. I have atleast 10 of these setup in the wild for clients using ubiquiti gear from 200ish feet to 1ish miles without issue. as long as you have LOS, and since you're so close turn down the gain, you'll be golden. i'd roof mount, but since this is just residential and you're apparently just helping someone out who doesn't want to pay for internet (or you want to LAN game/share) the wifi will be your Cheap/easy/good setup.
