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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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      @johnhooks said:

      We also had Comcast give us a quote for their hosted pbx (just to see). For 8 lines, with only 4 having voicemail it was going to be something like $376 (including internet).

      Yeah AND you'd be locked in just like a legacy phone system from the 1960s. Even if that was cheap, which it is not, that's crazy. I can tell you that NTG's hosted phone system is cheaper than that for 80 lines 😉

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @johnhooks said:

        We also had Comcast give us a quote for their hosted pbx (just to see). For 8 lines, with only 4 having voicemail it was going to be something like $376 (including internet).

        Yeah AND you'd be locked in just like a legacy phone system from the 1960s. Even if that was cheap, which it is not, that's crazy. I can tell you that NTG's hosted phone system is cheaper than that for 80 lines 😉

        Oh it was insane. The "Sales Engineer" was telling me how he's talked with IT Directors at large companies and they really liked the system. Ya, ok.

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates
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          They wanted $10 a month for essentially a loudspeaker ringer for on the shop floor.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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            @johnhooks said:

            Oh it was insane. The "Sales Engineer" was telling me how he's talked with IT Directors at large companies and they really liked the system. Ya, ok.

            Where "IT Director" = "Guy getting paid to arrange other people to do IT on his behalf."

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @stacksofplates
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              @johnhooks said:

              We also had Comcast give us a quote for their hosted pbx (just to see). For 8 lines, with only 4 having voicemail it was going to be something like $376 (including internet).

              did that include phones too?

              Cox wanted $20/month/extension - but that includes them installing a whole new wireplant, switches, phones, etc. They manage the entire thing. At that price it's not a bad offering. They do offer less expensive options that allow you to use your preexisting networking, etc, but I don't have that pricing.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Dashrender said:

                huh - When I don't get a DID I just think a company is either cheap or they don't want their employees getting phones directly to their desk.

                What "real" business lets you call everyone directly outside a few executives?

                West Teleservices has DID's to a rather large percentage of their staff, if not everyone.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  @johnhooks said:

                  We also had Comcast give us a quote for their hosted pbx (just to see). For 8 lines, with only 4 having voicemail it was going to be something like $376 (including internet).

                  did that include phones too?

                  Cox wanted $20/month/extension - but that includes them installing a whole new wireplant, switches, phones, etc. They manage the entire thing. At that price it's not a bad offering. They do offer less expensive options that allow you to use your preexisting networking, etc, but I don't have that pricing.

                  Ya it was for their low end phones. They put an edgemark behind our router, but don't do any installation of wiring.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    You can buy very nice, brand new phones for about $120. You can get cheap new ones for around $80.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      Cox wanted $20/month/extension - but that includes them installing a whole new wireplant, switches, phones, etc. They manage the entire thing. At that price it's not a bad offering. They do offer less expensive options that allow you to use your preexisting networking, etc, but I don't have that pricing.

                      If that is over, say, 18 phones it is not a very good deal. That is quite a lot of money.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        You can buy very nice, brand new phones for about $120. You can get cheap new ones for around $80.

                        Have you used any of the Ubiquiti UVPs?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          West Teleservices has DID's to a rather large percentage of their staff, if not everyone.

                          Yes, we've established that that one, smaller enterprise in the midwest does not follow the norms of the Fortune 500 in the rest of the world very often 🙂

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                            @johnhooks said:

                            Have you used any of the Ubiquiti UVPs?

                            No, they are very new.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              Cox wanted $20/month/extension - but that includes them installing a whole new wireplant, switches, phones, etc. They manage the entire thing. At that price it's not a bad offering. They do offer less expensive options that allow you to use your preexisting networking, etc, but I don't have that pricing.

                              If that is over, say, 18 phones it is not a very good deal. That is quite a lot of money.

                              Oh it's way to damned expensive - but it's a fully managed/hosted/etc solution.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @johnhooks said:

                                Have you used any of the Ubiquiti UVPs?

                                No, they are very new.

                                I tried to find a some videos on them, but the only ones I found were unboxing videos. One guy had a video setting it up, but didn't have a pbx to connect it to for the video.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Oh it's way to damned expensive - but it's a fully managed/hosted/etc solution.

                                  No "but", it's expensive. As someone who does that all for less..... 😉

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
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                                    Do you still have the same opinion of Elastix as I've read before @scottalanmiller?

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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                                      @johnhooks said:

                                      Do you still have the same opinion of Elastix as I've read before @scottalanmiller?

                                      I've started and or stated in more than one thread here and on SW that Elastix is basically dead.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                        @johnhooks said:

                                        Do you still have the same opinion of Elastix as I've read before @scottalanmiller?

                                        Depends when you read it. Elastix was a great product and I think @JaredBusch would agree with me. But as things stand today, it looks like Elastix went under and the lights are still on (website hasn't been taken down yet) but the company itself appears to be gone (a la ShopTech from another thread.)

                                        FreePBX is the key player here now having stepped into Elastix' shoes.

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                                        • StrongBadS
                                          StrongBad
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                                          Elastix doesn't seem to be doing anything anymore. It has been months since the last time that they had an update. They tried making their own interface and moving away from the FreePBX interface and it did not work out well for them at all. They ended up having to fall back to their old system and kind of died off in the process.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
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                                            Elastix is not an open source project itself. The devs could be super busy, but there has been almost no real information released for months.

                                            The current systems are not stable enough that I would ever feel comfortable deploying them.

                                            I honestly assume that they are active, but they have ALWAYS had very little presence.

                                            Elastix World was Oct 7-8

                                            Their social media is as active as normal:
                                            https://twitter.com/elastix
                                            https://www.facebook.com/elastix

                                            Their community forum has always been anemic.
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                                            The last announcement there is a year old and by Bob, a non-Palosanto employee that seems to be the only face to their community.
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                                            There is not even an updated announcement post about Elastix 4 and Elastix MT 1. Instead there is a simple edit to the old announcement linking to another thread by bob that then links to this news post. http://www.elastix.com/en/elastix-splits-into-two-products that was made in January 2015

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