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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      ipad pro

      The 12.9" iPad Pro

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      • scottalanmillerS
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        a lot of pixels

        That's a lot of pixels.

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        • DashrenderD
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          $800 - and it's still not a full PC. I guess. Then again we've been paying this for phones for years so what do I know? 😉

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          • Minion QueenM
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            My opinion on it. It's the Apple Version of the Surface Pro.... Better battery though and I think weighs less.

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            • DustinB3403D
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              At least they are adding onto the device, but their main go to has always been looks over function.

              They added a pencil.

              I wonder does it use #2 lead or #3. . .

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                $800 - and it's still not a full PC.

                It's ARM, not a PC at all.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  At least they are adding onto the device, but their main go to has always been looks over function.

                  They goal has always been useful functionality over functionality sprawl. The device for the 80%. You can't make a device that does everything and still be useful for most people. If that were true, everyone would be on Linux because it does more than anyone else. The biggest reason people avoid Linux - it does too much making it too hard and confusing not due to complexity but due to choices.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @Minion Queen
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                    @Minion-Queen said:

                    My opinion on it. It's the Apple Version of the Surface Pro.... Better battery though and I think weighs less.

                    How is this a Surface Pro? It runs IOS, right?

                    Scott's comment that it runs ARM isn't relevant to my point which was that this is still an iPAD, not a full on content creation device because it's hamstrung by the app model. Now in writing that I realize my own bias at the device - I've owned three different tablets and have I yet to find any real use for any of them. My wife is no different. We both prefer Kindles for reading books and full out laptop (convertibles) for anything our phones can't handle. Of course that said, I know we are in the minority. People seem to love their tablets, so I'm sure this will be a highly coveted device. But back to the PC, I guess I need to stop being the Luddite and get with the modern world.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      Scott's comment that it runs ARM isn't relevant to my point

                      You said it wasn't a full PC. PC means AMD64 architecture. This is ARM. Different architecture, can never be a PC.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
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                        You CAN make full blown ARM devices that do all of the content creation stuff, but this is a tablet. It's like being upset that a Ferrari, while a nice car, isn't a boat. What's the point? Of course it isn't a boat. For people who want boats, normally they just say "Oh, I'm not a car guy." For people who like cars, Ferrari is pretty nice.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                          @Minion-Queen said:

                          My opinion on it. It's the Apple Version of the Surface Pro.... Better battery though and I think weighs less.

                          @Dashrender said:

                          How is this a Surface Pro? It runs IOS, right?

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                          • DashrenderD
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                            What? how so? She said this was Apple's version of the Surface Pro, so unless this device is a full blown MAC OS X, it's not Apple's version of the Surface Pro, it's simply Apples giant sized iPad.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              How is this a Surface Pro? It runs IOS, right?

                              The comparison is that they are both tablets and both good as content consumers and bad as content creators. You CAN create with both and both are very bad at it. This is a device designed really well (we assume) to do what it does without all of the bloat of trying to pretend that it is a content creation device.

                              The Surface and the iPad are, to nearly all people, head to head competitors. Which is why Surfaces end up being used as iPads stands on TV - they are direct replacements to the average user. Tablet vs. tablet.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                What? how so? She said this was Apple's version of the Surface Pro, so unless this device is a full blown MAC OS X, it's not Apple's version of the Surface Pro, it's simply Apples giant sized iPad.

                                Because Surface doesn't mean that to most people. It's a tablet, a content consuming device. Both are tablets, high powered ones.

                                What makes OSX special compared to iOS to you? They are different, yes of course, but what actual definition of functionality difference are you using to define whatever two things you have in your mind?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  What makes OSX special compared to iOS to you? They are different, yes of course, but what actual definition of functionality difference are you using to define whatever two things you have in your mind?

                                  Nothing anymore.. it's simply the availability of the app you want. which as we know is narrowing daily.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Nothing anymore.. it's simply the availability of the app you want. which as we know is narrowing daily.

                                    So you are defining PC by "the number of apps that you want that people have made as third parties?"

                                    Then things are only PCs on a personal basis and has nothing to do with the device at all. That seems a rather hard to use definition.

                                    But you feel OSX has every app that you want? It's definitely not a PC to me by your definition of it.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
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                                      The Live Photos feature looks really cool.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
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                                        $32 a month for iPhone upgrade program from the Apple Store.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said:

                                          $32 a month for iPhone upgrade program from the Apple Store.

                                          That feels a little high, but maybe not. Is it every two years?

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
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                                            Actually I no longer have a good definitely of PC, what used to be Personal Computer. Most these devices qualify for those two works these days. Your phone, your tablet, your desktop at home, etc - they are all personally connected to you and what you want them to do.

                                            I'll admit that when I think of PC I bias myself to a a full Windows desktop/laptop OS i.e. Windows 10, a device that I can create my own software for, buy software for nearly any function I desire, etc. But when I look at the software side of that, the reality is that the same can pretty much be said for IOS/Android too, so what stops them from being a PC?

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